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Castle Black(mon)'s trade block has been updated!
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LOL. Yeah, that's one of my favorite scenes. Hilarious. Notice he stopped at fifth though..lol.
Las Piranhas on
December 30, 2017 10:21 PM
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Everything is fine in the league. It appears that currently we have an outstanding group here(even ABS..that was in humor man..lol). You have winners and losers in fantasy sports. In this format, owners still can stay interested by building for the next season(see McCheese from last year, and it almost worked out for him). Your thinking is everyone should win something from the lottery too. Everyone Leave the league the way it is, and let's start focusing on the upcoming draft and season.
Las Piranhas on
December 30, 2017 10:16 PM
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MB, methinks you better watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20iio0wLpPA
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Maybe we could just give participation trophies to all players. In the words of Ricky Bobbie-if you ain't first, your last. But actually in this case, you can do well if you finish first, second or third. Why are you worrying so much about the difference between fourth and last place. You lose when you aren't in the top three. That's what the competition is. Stop over thinking fourth thru last place. We have a good league, will always lose a few owners year to year.
Las Piranhas on
December 30, 2017 9:59 PM
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Finally, I am simply asking you to keep an open mind in considering this proposal. I understand it may be difficult to embrace at first, but once you play in a league with a format that rewards EVERY place in the standings, I believe you will find any other way to be boring. I speak from experience. When every place higher benefits you, the excitement of competing is always present. My hope is that we can work together to find something that makes sense—and is acceptable—to all.
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We already have a setup—designed by Ottoneu—in which finishing second is more rewarding than finishing third, and third is better than fourth. With all due respect, can anyone please give me a reason why finishing fourth should not be better than finishing last? Why shouldn’t finishing fifth be better than finishing 11th? All I am seeking is some kind of format that rewards ALL of us in a tangible way for competing. I am open to any ideas. I have given you mine.
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Niv specifically referred me to this article: https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/can-you-force-your-league-to-compete/ and encouraged me to explore it until he can make it a standard feature (I suppose we could consider this somewhat of a beta phase). In looking it over, I felt the “5MiLB Draft” aspect was a little too complex for our purposes at this stage, so I attempted to draw up a variation to see if we could come to agreement on a format that rewards teams for every place in the standin
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I have since been searching for a reason for every participant—including the commissioner—to be engaged, and I decided to reach out to Niv Shah, the creator of Ottoneu and still chief caretaker, with my concerns. I asked him why finishing second is better than finishing third and third is better than fourth, but finishing fourth is no better than finishing last. He responded that other Ottoneu leagues had experienced similar frustration and had found great success with a “coupon” system.
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Established in 2015, so many owners abandoned their teams, including the commissioner, that the entire league agreed to redraft (auction) from scratch for the 2016 season. Following the second season, we again had significant ownership turnover, including the (second) commissioner, who mysteriously disappeared just before the auction. I stepped in and took the reins at that point, but we, again, have suffered massive turnover by a third of the league in the past year.
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In light of recent concern about my dereliction of duties, let’s see if we can start fresh and celebrate the New Year by working together to make this the best Ottoneu league in existence, both by quality of competition and continuity of ownership. In order to do that, let’s review a little history of this league, $100 Old School Hardball. I must warn you that it is not a tale of unfettered continuity and engagement.
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My apologies to all for any misunderstanding that has resulted in recent days. Please know that my intentions are pure and simply for the benefit of the health of the league as a whole. After making the Coupon proposal and encouraging comments and discussion, I felt the impending holidays made it a dubious time to ensure everyone’s voice was heard, so I intended to table the discussion until after the New Year, at which point we would all hopefully be full-speed ahead, focused on baseball.
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ABS's trade block has been updated!
Octane Twisted on
December 30, 2017 6:52 PM
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I should say also: I can understand your viewpoint and appreciate your looking for improvements to the league. Nothing wrong there. I would rather any changes be regulated by the powers at Ottoneu and owners have the option to decide if they want to play under those rules or not. I personally do not want any changes. I like it the way it is. And I can't believe it, but I think ABS and myself are actually in agreement(hopefully a laugh from ABS with our history)
Las Piranhas on
December 30, 2017 3:15 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how in the world you have the understanding that we have all agreed to try your voucher whatever it is thing. Please take a few minutes out of your holiday time and read the previous post. I think you'll understand that there is nothing implying we have all agreed on anything. And to be more clear to you, I do not agree to change anything. Any changes will be made through Ottoneu. I have no interest in your proposal.
Las Piranhas on
December 30, 2017 2:07 PM
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And Torpedoes- I have no doubt that you have far more important things to do than worry about fantasy baseball but saying that you’ve been ‘focused on the holiday season’ when you started your other l ague on December 24th is disingenuous.
Octane Twisted on
December 30, 2017 1:41 PM
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I was under the impression that the voucher system wasn’t happening based on this message from Torpedoes on December 14th— “Of course, as ABS also points out, that may just lead to more turnover rather than its intended purpose, so such a thought has been tabled for the time being.”
Octane Twisted on
December 30, 2017 1:39 PM
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Did I miss the vote? What was the final arb coupon proposal?
Mr. McGibblets on
December 30, 2017 1:13 PM
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Just for the record, I couldn’t care less about the 11th place team. The purpose of the voucher system is to reward those who COMPETE and finish high in the standings, yet fall short of the ultimate goal. Checking out and settling at the bottom of the pack is not in the spirit of competition. If that’s your thing, there are plenty of other leagues where that is apparently welcome. My hope is to forge a viable alternative where we can engage in challenging, continuous competition.
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Thanks for the shout out, ABS. No need to worry. I am still here and still very much plan to be engaged, along with overseeing implementation of the voucher system that my understanding is we have all agreed to try. Not really sure how you want me to be “more engaged,” but I have just been focused on the holiday season during this “downtime” for Ottoneu. As for the “other league,” I am hoping to try out a points league, but my focus here remains strong. Merry Christmas and Happy New
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My experience in fantasy baseball, as well as Ottoneu, is that having an engaged commissioner is more important to having a successful league than some kind of voucher system to encourage the 11th place team to pay attention in mid-September.
Octane Twisted on
December 30, 2017 8:38 AM
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I know I am new here but is it possible to change the commissioner and get someone who actually pays attention to this league? Brad seemed really gung-ho about trying out his voucher system but now that we are not doing that he seems to have checked out. He has also started a new $250 league that is in the "Available League" tab and my guess is he his putting his effort into that league.
Octane Twisted on
December 30, 2017 8:36 AM
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Czech Mate's trade block has been updated!
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Castle Black(mon)'s trade block has been updated!
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The Evil Pink Robots's trade block has been updated!
The Keymasters on
December 28, 2017 10:54 AM
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Castle Black(mon)'s trade block has been updated!
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The Bumpkins's trade block has been updated!
All Proofs on
December 27, 2017 7:44 AM
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Our league's hot stove has been wayyy more interesting than MLB's.
Mr. McGibblets on
December 26, 2017 8:36 AM
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Chicks Dig My Long Ball's trade block has been updated!
Mr. McGibblets on
December 24, 2017 6:53 PM
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Czech Mate's trade block has been updated!
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The Bumpkins's trade block has been updated!
All Proofs on
December 24, 2017 11:13 AM
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Hotspurs Baseball Club 2's trade block has been updated!
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The Bumpkins's trade block has been updated!
All Proofs on
December 21, 2017 12:55 PM
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It's all good. I have some good pieces. I will figure it out.
All Proofs on
December 19, 2017 10:51 PM
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And I don't think Bumpkins was requesting that anyway. So I think all is good.
Las Piranhas on
December 19, 2017 10:49 PM
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I'm against putting the players back on team. Those cuts were made in November. The team was claimed as it currently is. While it might suck looking at that after the claim, I don't think we need to undo what is done. The good news is those players will be available come draft day, and you'll have money free to spend. Just my two cents.
Las Piranhas on
December 19, 2017 10:46 PM
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Though it does suck, I would not be in favor of undoing the moves. The availability of at least 1 of those players definitely factored into my trades this offseason.
Mr. McGibblets on
December 19, 2017 9:19 PM
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I would be in favor of the commish restoring those 5-6 players back onto your roster. No reason the old owner should have cut them if he was going to quit.
Octane Twisted on
December 19, 2017 7:46 PM
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Started reviewing my team.....Sad that prior owner cut players that I would have considered keeping.......so it goes I guess............does explain why I have no closers on my roster
All Proofs on
December 19, 2017 7:29 PM
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The Bumpkins's trade block has been updated!
All Proofs on
December 19, 2017 7:10 PM
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Winnersville Front Office's trade block has been updated!
Strick9 on
December 19, 2017 4:42 PM
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Welp, that was quick. A hearty welcome to The Bumpkins, formerly Santiam Sluggers. I hope we finally have 12 invested owners, committed to competing--throughout every season--and enjoying the challenge of the competition, no matter where you currently fall in the standings. I will do my best to help in any way, as well as to facilitate the replacement of any owners who disappear in-season, so that we will have full year-round engagement going forward. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all!
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I believe we need a new owner for Santiam Sluggers as he told me he was abandoning his team. Commish- can you abandon it so we can get a new owner?
Octane Twisted on
December 19, 2017 8:05 AM
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I'm aggressively shopping Donaldson prior to the cut deadline. I've already sent some feeler offers out there. If you have any interest, please send me a message or any offers. Thanks.
The Keymasters on
December 18, 2017 8:10 AM
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The Evil Pink Robots's trade block has been updated!
The Keymasters on
December 16, 2017 8:37 PM
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ABS's trade block has been updated!
Octane Twisted on
December 16, 2017 12:41 PM
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Chicks Dig My Long Ball's trade block has been updated!
Mr. McGibblets on
December 16, 2017 12:40 PM
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Chicks Dig My Long Ball's trade block has been updated!
Mr. McGibblets on
December 15, 2017 11:18 AM
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ABS's trade block has been updated!
Octane Twisted on
December 15, 2017 8:30 AM
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Welcome to our third new owner, who just took over the Winnersville franchise. We’ve got a great core group here and are hopeful this has the makings of a good long-term dozen. Great to have you! Feel free to change your team name if you so desire, and jump right in to the discussion as you see fit.
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