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Jet City Javas's trade block has been updated!
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if you cut him now its the same as april 1. you won't get the cap room right away, but if someone claims him on waivers (which is possible) you'll get the cap room back right away. and if he clears waivers he will definitely be re-auctioned, which, once that is complete you will get the money back. So if you're gonna cut trout the sooner the better.
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Since I cannot make cuts without the 50% penalty, nor make trades that would solve me being over the cap, I guess I will keep my roster as is until April 1st, when I can get 100% value of any cuts I make, I wll not cut Mike Trout for whom I have for $62 and just get credit for $31 while I have a trade offer that would solve my cap overage and help both teams.
Mr Baseball on
March 6, 2016 3:42 PM
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I believe you cannot trade while over the cap. So your going to have to cut him.
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hey there. just a thought. the system might not let you propose or even accept a trade if you are over cap. I could be wrong. but i just wanted to give you a heads up so you aren't surprised. but i fully support trading and the hearty solicitation thereof.
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I have to make cuts or trades to get my roster at the payroll threshold. Thus I have Mike Trout at $62 - I am $60 over the limit - so I can trade him or cut him and others. Anyone willing to work out a trade - let me know before Sunday when I can/will cut him.
Mr Baseball on
March 4, 2016 11:54 PM
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If we're agreed on Sunday, lets say cuts and trades can begin at 2:00 (a week after this whole smooth process began).
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Thanks Matt, glad that got cleared up
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My bad guys. I just reread that again and realized I completely misunderstood the 2 per day as 2 per period. I'll accept the no cuts until Sunday.
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The current number of nominated players may be similar to the maximum allowed if everyone would have nominated 2 per day . . . but they didn't. One person nominated 40 or more. I'm fine with leaving it as it is. I'm just explaining the point.
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How are there extra nominations? 2 players per day per owner is 24 auctions per day, times 5 days means that for the first five days there could have been close to 125 players auctioned. It's not two players per team to nominate in the first 5 days which would be your 24.
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John Vassallo voiced my point exactly. The original agreement, per the commish was this: "each manager can nominate 2 players per day for the first 5 days, and then 3 players a day for the next 5 days." This should have equaled no more than 24 auctions so far. I count 85 completed and pending auctions so far. Much higher! Not being able to cut players right away didn't bother me under those assumptions. However, those extra nominations mean that I have to pass on more players than inte
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ok. let's move forward. I propose ended the abbreviated auction on sunday. and then open season begins. any naysayers?
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HUGE thank you to John for trying to figure this thing out. I don't feel especially harmed by the extra nominations and am fine leaving it, but am open to hearing ideas from those who do feel harmed. I really don't want to see the cut date moved up before Sunday though. It being moved up has messed up strategy for me a little bit, which is no biggie, things happen and we just have to adapt, but I strongly prefer not moving it up any further. Just my opinion
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Thanks for ALL of your work John. I guess we can either leave it as is, or move the cut date up. I'm fine with either way.
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i made contact. dude just said sorry for the confusion. doesn't really solve anything. I'm up for drastic, irreversible, and rash actions and am contemplating kicking him out unless there's a public mea culpa and a damn good reason for making my life a huge pain in the ass. I don't know what the best solution going forward is. but if we can figure it out we might all want to tackle the whole world peace thing. (seems less complicated.)
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I don't see anything in the comments from the commish saying no one could nominate. The big question is why there were so many overnight nominations. John says he's trying to make contact and see what happened and then he'll make a decision. The draft is already ending 3 days ahead of schedule, which I think is more than fair to the players in the overbid situation.
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Yes, it looks like the commish reversed those cuts. It doesn't seem to matter what time of night nominations are made. It's just the quantity of them and the cuts that were outside of what we planned for. It looks like Arrieta agrees that he's over the cap and he has to wait to make cuts. He just didn't think that 35 extra players would be nominated before he has the chance to do so because that was not what rules were.
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Also, a Mike Trout cut now, drastically changes things in the draft. I think everyone would agree to that. Heck, I believe I have waiver priority because I got last in 2015, but I certainly didn't think people who went past their cap would be able to drop players mid auction.
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I do not think folks agreed to not nominate new people, just that there would be no cuts. The auction is not freezing for everyone, just people who exceed their cap.
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I kinda of feel like that is the punishment for over bidding, I would have loved to have put down some monster bids on a few players, but I didn't so I would still be able to negotiate this part of the draft. If you cut players in the middle then we have to worry about their timing and it changes the whole strategy of things. I don't know, really first time, bound to be some learn by going.
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I realize that part of it's my own fault for bidding too high on some players, but that doesn't change the fact that there shouldn't have been this many auctions at this point without cuts.
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Why are more auctions being started? I thought we were holding off on new auctions, cuts, and trades until Sunday. I operated under the assumption that there would be a certain number of auctions during this first period. Because I can't make cuts, I can't bid or nominate right now.
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Sorry about my late nominations, I am on the West Coast and I forgot the time change for the game.
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yeah...I am attempting to make contact and fix the miscommunications. and I added the cuts back to the team.
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Perhaps some email settings need to be checked. Top of this page, click on your username, select all, and save.
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Looks like cuts were made and the late night nominator struck again.(mr. Baseball?) Any thoughts?
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Looks like cuts were made and the late night nominator struck again.(mr. Baseball?) Any thoughts?
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I concur with the suggestion that we only draft this week. So Sunday is "do whatever your little heart desires day"
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Suggestion: The draft is only this week. Sunday we go to standard operating procedures.
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I'm also for no cuts or trades until we declare the draft over. Any information on why so many people got nominated? If we are letting the noms go through I recommend ending the draft earlier by one day, since 30 noms is roughly 3 noms/per team.
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I'm for no cuts until the draft process is over, so that we're not dealing with cut players being re-nominated. However, if we're going to accelerate the time line for cuts being allowed, we should just open to cuts and trades and as many nominations as people want.
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we are all learning as we go here. my inclination is to say that we should allow cuts after the first five day period is over (so after tomorrow). and then either allow both cuts and trades. or hold off on the trades until after the second 5 day period for the trades. that's my 3 cents.
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I would say cuts are frozen until this process is over. Otherwise it's too variable.
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So are cuts in play now that auctions have exceeded 2/manager?
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So, it's letting folks spend over their caps. Interesting. FYI.
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That sounds fine to me. We can just bid. Thanks.
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hey, good question. I would stop the auctions if I could. but i can't. so I won't. I could remove all the players after the bids were up, but it seems like a huge pain the ass. But I'll do whatever people wants to happen.
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"It wasn't me". Should the "3am 30" be removed? or should we just bid on them? It doesn't matter to me. Just wondering, thanks.
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ok. I acknowledge now that "the slow draft" was an idea stuffed with potential problems. but to whoever nominated 30 players at 3:30 this morning can you please read/respond to some/any/one of the postings/emails that have been going around about the proposed auction format. "you're killing me smalls."....you're killing me. 2 a day per manager for 5 days and then 3 a day for 5 days...and then 30 a day after that if you feel inclined that way.
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ANNOUNCEMENT! No cuts or trades until after March 9. Message me if you got an issue. danka
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sorry dudes. my mistake. not trying to pull a fast one... just unbelieveably late to the party. (not even sure what's happening just yet...)
Fame Throwa on
February 28, 2016 7:34 PM
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hey all, i know it looks like we got some inefficient shenanigans happening over here in the 'player cut' department. But "Sox on Rooster" joined the league late in the game and there was a miscommunication concerning cuts. So I'm gonna cut the players that were needing to be cut w/o the cap penalty. But NO ONE ELSE BETTER GET ANY IDEAS :)
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Wait, I thought we weren't making any cuts until after the first couple auction periods, but Sox on a Rooster just cut a bunch of players. All pre-draft (now pre-auction) cuts had to be done by Jan 31st.
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Happy Draft Hanukkah All!
Schwarfizzles on
February 28, 2016 7:15 PM
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Dave, good suggestion. I was thinking along the same lines but Niv is on it. It seems like it should get fixed before the first batch of auctions end. So everyone just bid normally. Sorry for the complication
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I'd accept the owner of the voted off player just emailing Commissioner John their bid before the auction expires as a work-around.
Olson's Eleven on
February 28, 2016 2:52 PM
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hey all, false start. complicated story told less complicatedly...the system won't let you bid on the players who were voted off of your team b/c it seems like you cut that player in the last 30 days. I'm gonna email ottoneu help and hopefully find a solution. Sorry.
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so...i'm gonna start
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