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I'm stuck with that part and if I am being fair, it's hard to argue the deals were made with any other thought in mind beyond screwing with the integrity of the league. It comes down to two things for me: 1) I can't come up with a valid reason to keep the trades other than the fact that I like what I got in return and 2) I can't honestly argue the trades, as a whole, don't hurt the league and make it very challenging to get a owner willing to drop $100 for a serious rebuild over several seasons.
Chrysler Crush on
December 22, 2015 11:47 AM
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Unfortunately that is what makes this situation complex. In Coco's example it would be clear moves were made without the consent of the actual owner. That's not the case here. Much like Chico, my conversations with the guy involved some back and forth. I'm not sure at what point a new owner becomes an "official" part of the league, but I also I can't explain why the guy seemed to sort of care about the return in a trade on one day only to turn around the next and cut most of the guys h
Chrysler Crush on
December 22, 2015 11:39 AM
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League-mates (insert your response here) because the hacker that made those trades was never an official part of the league. Additionally, Sheriff threatens to boycott the league because his team is in such bad shape after the trades; as such, is in jeopardy of playing with 11 teams. So, should the graduate of the Chinese Government Hacking Institution have an actual impact on this league, or no? Only you the people can decide (which so far I think is 7 pro reversa
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Let's have a thought experiment. Trade Sheriff's computer is hacked and he loses control of his team. Hacker makes trades that are not blatantly awful, but likely favor one side. Fellow league-mates are ambivalent because, in general, a trade has to be particularly one-sided to warrant a veto. A week later, Sheriff, being a computer genius despite getting hacked, overthrows the hackers and re-gains control of his team. Sheriff petitions the league to have all of the transactions reversed
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I'm against reversing the trades, too. I sent him a lot of offers that he rejected, so it's not like he was just blowing it up completely on purpose. But definitely add the players back that he cut.
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I made a trade with him but would be ok with reversing, definitely the cuts at least, but yeah I think that roster is in even more trouble post that guy
House Felix on
December 22, 2015 7:28 AM
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I vote against reversing trades. That's a slippery slope. We all already had an opportunity to veto each trade. All but one trade had either 0 or 1 veto votes (one trade had 2). None came close to being overturned.
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Well looks like a lot of people want the trades reversed. I personally agree that they should be since, like a fraud said, they were made with a ghost. Unless someone has a :strong emoji: objection to this, I'll attempt to get the reversals processed on Thursday or Friday
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I'm pretty sure the guy didn't even consider his budget. That makes the trades egregious imo.
TEAM DEUCE on
December 21, 2015 10:58 PM
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none of us made trades that were thought to be fair to both sides if the players we all offered away were just dropped immediately after
A-Fraud on
December 21, 2015 10:48 PM
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the trades should be reversed and definitely not up to the opposite owner in each individual trade as SPH suggests... we essentially made trades with a computer.. is it fair to the new owner that the team was fire sold by a ghost? I realize it could be a lot of work for our commissioner but the future inheritor is not getting a previously owned team given its current state its just a myth
A-Fraud on
December 21, 2015 10:47 PM
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It's hard to say. Stranger's theory is certainly possible. Just as likely the guy is just an ass who got bored and wanted to screw around for a couple of days. I'd totally agree Ottoneu should have something in place requiring money up front when taking over a team in an established league, particularly those at the high-end entry level.
Chrysler Crush on
December 21, 2015 9:38 PM
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I just don't understand why someone would go through the trouble to do this. His drops should sinusitis be reversed and the trades souks be up to the people with whom he made them m. I also didn't think they were egregious so I'm ok with that either way.
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I think that the trades should be reversed. My guess is he did this in several other leagues and went with the team he thought was best. I was excited about the trades I made with the coward too.
TEAM DEUCE on
December 21, 2015 9:16 PM
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Agree on restoring the cut players; it might help with attracting a new owner, though the team is still going to be a bit of a trainwreck. I'm torn on the trades, but see the value of having a conversation about them. Trying not to be selfish since two of them were mine and I was definitely pleased to unload several guys I did not intend to keep.
Chrysler Crush on
December 21, 2015 8:16 PM
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I feel like everything he did should be reversed since he was essentially a "fake" owner. Even though the trades seem fair for the most part, I think they should be reversed as well
THE RIDICULOUS on
December 21, 2015 7:24 PM
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Yeah - that makes sense.
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Agreed. But I think restoring his recent cuts is a good call.
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I don't think it makes much sense to undo all the trades. None of them were that bad. What a douche.
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I'm inclined to go back and reverse all of this guy's transactions..however, I didn't think any of the trades were that egregious. I will add back all of the players to his roster that he dropped though
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I want that guy's email address. Would love to Papelbon him.
TEAM DEUCE on
December 21, 2015 9:02 AM
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what was the owner name, want to be able to get word out around the otto community
House Felix on
December 20, 2015 9:46 PM
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Absolutely ridiculous, the worst thing about fantasy baseball is a guy coming in and doing this to a league
House Felix on
December 20, 2015 9:38 PM
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Absolutely ridiculous, the worst thing about fantasy baseball is a guy coming in and doing this to a league
House Felix on
December 20, 2015 9:38 PM
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damn everything that guy did has to be reversed now
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You shouldn't be able to claim a team without paying at the time of the claim because of bozos like that
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WHAT A CLOWN, please ask around if you know anyone willing to pick up this team so we don't have to deal with a loser like that again
A-Fraud on
December 20, 2015 8:03 PM
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Chico's Bail Bonds's trade block has been updated!
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House Felix's trade block has been updated!
House Felix on
December 11, 2015 8:54 PM
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THE RIDICULOUS 's trade block has been updated!
THE RIDICULOUS on
December 11, 2015 10:31 AM
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Fiers Sale π°'s trade block has been updated!
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Texas Strangers's trade block has been updated!
TEAM DEUCE on
December 10, 2015 11:23 AM
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Chico's Bail Bonds's trade block has been updated!
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House Felix's trade block has been updated!
House Felix on
December 9, 2015 10:48 PM
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Ha. Complete makeover. I don't doubt he'll turn the whole thing all over again before it's all said and done. Fun to see a bunch of trades get done here.
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I'm wondering if Fiers has ANY idea what his team is going to look like in 3 days. ;)
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Fiers Sale π°'s trade block has been updated!
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THE RIDICULOUS 's trade block has been updated!
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House Felix's trade block has been updated!
House Felix on
December 9, 2015 12:57 AM
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Fiers Sale, living up to his namesake!
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Fiers Sale, living up to his namesake!
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Caminitiville Horror's trade block has been updated!
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A-Fraud's trade block has been updated!
A-Fraud on
December 8, 2015 7:30 PM
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House Felix's trade block has been updated!
House Felix on
December 8, 2015 4:23 PM
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House Felix's trade block has been updated!
House Felix on
December 8, 2015 7:06 AM
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Fiers Sale π°'s trade block has been updated!
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Chico's Bail Bonds's trade block has been updated!
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Texas Strangers's trade block has been updated!
TEAM DEUCE on
November 25, 2015 5:24 PM
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Caminitiville Horror's trade block has been updated!
Chrysler Crush on
November 20, 2015 9:38 PM
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Texas Strangers's trade block has been updated!
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