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My .02 that nobody asked for: Cruz is playing in Winter Ball and from what I've seen no charges have/will be filed. The trade really comes down to Bell vs Lynn as Taylor, Cruz, and Frazier won't have much impact on the '21 season. I have no issue with the trade as Lynn who is better now should have 1-2 years before the decline phase hits. Bell is considerably younger and a launch angle adjustment away from putting up '19 numbers. If the new guy thinks that's likely its a good gamble to take.
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Well I (we) know you, and I would expect you would re-up all those teams. But there is no impediment in Ottoneu to some random person coming in and claiming a team, making a bunch of moves and disappearing. Bell and Oneil Cruz I think are consensus cuts, so you've effectively traded a $3 utility player for a top 20 SP on a fantastic contract, and youngish upside bat.
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I think the trade should be evaluated on the merits like any other trade. If you think it’s too lopsided, that’s fine, we can see what others think. In response to your points on the merits: (1) Plesac had alright pitched lights out before the suspension, (2) Bell got better, not worse, after the trade, although he admittedly had a putrid season, (3) your information about Cruz is way off base, he wasn’t charged and there’s no risk to his career I’m aware of based on any reporting I’ve seen.
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As someone who has taken over 4 new Ottoneu teams this offseason (I have a problem) and paid for none of them so far, I have a hard time understanding the concern. I’m going to pay for all of those leagues by the Jan 31 deadline, just like all the existing members have until Jan 31 to re-up. I’ve made a whole bunch of trades in those other leagues already - they’re not any less valid because I haven’t paid yet.
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I'd still think this trade sucks, but probably not voice any concerns if it was a guy that was a long-standing member of the league. Not someone that has been here for two days, and not paid his entry fee yet.
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Timing matters ... it looks similar now but at the time it was a no.5 SP that was suspended by the team for breaking COVID protocols, a good prospect, and a middle reliever for a quality 1B and mediocre prospect. That mediocre prospect has since killed 3 people in car accident and may never play baseball again. Plesac pitched lights out since his return to the MLB team, and Bell put in over 200 PAs of a sub .700 OPS.
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For what it’s worth, I made what I would consider a relatively similar trade (Bell + Cruz for Plesac + Kirilloff + Lugo) with Flags back in August, and there were no complaints and no votes to veto that deal. I have Plesac and Lynn valued pretty close to one another in dynasty, and I’d prefer Kirilloff to Frazier.
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That link brings me to the message board
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If you click on the trade there's an option to discuss & veto. Feel free to voice your thoughts there, and if enough people agree with you it can be vetoed.
Sixto Midnight on
December 21, 2020 10:53 PM
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I do not get that trade at all from a new guy that has not paid an entry fee
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That didn't take long, welcome to the league!
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Yup! Someone on the message boards was looking for a team. Welcome to the league, Tyler!
Sixto Midnight on
December 21, 2020 12:15 AM
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Looks like we have a new owner for BBZ?
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Sounds good, thanks commish!
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Given BBZ is out, I think we should make a call in the next week as to whether we'll be increasing to $100 next year so the new owner isn't caught off guard. I'll plan on bumping the league up to $100 unless I hear otherwise in the next week.
Sixto Midnight on
December 19, 2020 4:08 PM
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Sorry to see you go, BBZ! Enjoyed competing against you, you had some strong teams. Hope you find some enjoyment in the game again soon. Would no doubt help if MLB stopped shooting itself in the foot over and over.
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All- I've been trying to tell myself I'll get into it but after this last season I've just soured on MLB a bit (doesn't help that the Rockies front office is a complete dumpster fire). Instead of waiting until Jan/Feb to see if I'm interested enough, I'm going to resign now and let someone else make decisions with the team and move forward. Thanks for the great camaraderie and competition. I think my team has a decent foundation (especially in pitching), hope you can get a good owner!
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I'm for it ..
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I will go with whatever the majority wants, I'm rather ambivalent on the topic.
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I'm not against it either
Sixto Midnight on
December 14, 2020 5:54 PM
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I’m personally content at our current level, but won’t leave if it changes :)
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I like the idea....
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I would be in favor
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Would there be any interest in moving this league up to $100?
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Should have made you sweat a little longer! Got it done, kept meaning to do it earlier but stuff kept interrupting.
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Witty is making us all sweat. Looking forward to the rest of the offseason.
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Just a reminder for Witty and Yodas, less than a week less to make arb allocations.
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Thanks Billboard! I swore I did that on multiple devices. 😀
Kind of Blue 2 on
October 17, 2020 10:42 AM
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Navigate to arbitration page (under league). There’s a drop down menu that currently reads overview near top of page. Select team you wish to allocate to. On each team page there are drop downs next to each players name to allocate $1-$3. Hope this helps!
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I don't see an arbitration button to enter arbitration values, need step by step instructions. I do see the link and it shows current arbitration values, etc., but no button to initiate.
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Thank you guys! Awesome thing about Ottoneu is the season never stops...see you next month for arbitration.
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Congratulations Flags on your stellar season!
Kind of Blue 2 on
September 28, 2020 1:30 AM
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Congrats on another title Flags. Hope I gone hang around one of these years ...
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Micro managing was my downfall last year. Plus a couple shitty trades due to me being impatient. Good job this year, already looking forward to next year!
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If I had played the right players I wouldn't be fighting for 2nd ...That is why it's so interesting..You can micro manage your team right out of contention...
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Thanks Fly. I probably should of not said easily, but I think I would have been quite a bit better.
Kind of Blue 2 on
September 26, 2020 8:48 PM
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I'm gonna try my best not to make it too easy for you next year Crosley...
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No way you were overcoming my 2 combined in ERA and WHIP 😂
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The Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo experience has left me wanting. I think I could of won this league easily if they were hitting.
Kind of Blue 2 on
September 26, 2020 6:16 PM
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The Max Scherzer experience hasn't been what I expected.
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One week left and with game maximums ..the shit is gonna be interesting . Good Luck guys !!!!
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Been there! Looking forward to 2021...
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My team totally shutdown on me.
Kind of Blue 2 on
September 12, 2020 7:03 PM
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Looking for sp help before the deadline if anyone wants to trade one.
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Thanks. I had not realized that was a continuation game.
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Niv posted this about the scoring for games that are completed at a later date: https://community.ottoneu.com/t/nationals-vs-yankees-suspended-game-and-resumed-suspended-games-in-general/3857
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Looks like they are only counting the 2nd game stats.
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I'm confused. I'm not seeing live stats for Baltimore players today.
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I noticed these number of games maximum versus projected. Part of me says to ignore it in case the season is shortened further. The other says to put some players on the bench.
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Thanks for the info.
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