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I agree there has been no advantage YET, nor not likely in the very near future, but stand by the belief that there should be a deadline because the longer we wait, the more likely he MAY gain an advantage. If you give him 10 cuts, it won’t be difficult to get under the cap without any real penalty, so what is the penalty? As has been pointed out, without one the deadline we have in place becomes meaningless.
Say-Hey Kid on
February 18, 2022 1:42 PM
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Hear ye, hear ye! Seatown will send me a list of cuts he wants to make. I'll make most of the cuts without penalty, but I'll cut a player or two with a cap penalty, chosen arbitrarily, in my infinite wisdom. If I choose a player likely to be redrafted, the penalty will essentially be temporary. If I choose a terrible (or retired) player, the penalty could carry through the season! Lo, what spectre looms on Seatown's roster, to torment him? No one knows!
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With no CBA in the near future, no free agency moves and no spring training info, I'm not sure of the big advantage SeaTown is getting so far. But I'm OK for enforcing some penalty for missing the deadline, so I'd give him 10 free cuts. I think it's reasonable for him to get under the cap easily, giving him some leeway on how to build his roster but still penalizing him on how many guys can be freely cut.
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……Maybe the rest of the league gets to vote on who he has to drop. LOL. 😂
Say-Hey Kid on
February 18, 2022 12:23 PM
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Given that SeaTown is over the salary cap, I think he should be required to pare down his roster to get under the $400 cap, but there should be limits as to how many cuts can be made. Further, there should be a deadline for accomplishing this. The longer he waits, the more likely he becomes privy to info which affects his decisions, giving him a competitive advantage over the rest of us.
Say-Hey Kid on
February 18, 2022 12:19 PM
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I totally understand there should be some penalty.
Rake-N-Bake on
February 17, 2022 11:21 AM
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I'm with Schrute with my ambivalence. I can respect any decision here. It certainly seems that this being the second year is an extenuating circumstance though. I like the idea of a certain number (or dollar amount) of cuts. The deadline is a deadline for a reason. If it's not enforced there's really no point to it.
Fidelio on
February 17, 2022 10:59 AM
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I has something personal come up that I recently messaged the commissioner about. I will be an active owner this year. My apologies fellas!
Rake-N-Bake on
February 17, 2022 10:38 AM
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That may depend on whether “any” amount of engagement (even a little) is valuable to the league. I tend to think so, but others may fairly think otherwise. I view WSOT more recreationally and am willing to give a less-active owner some leeway, but I respect the opposite opinion. Especially since this is the 2nd time, maybe splitting the difference and allowing a few free cuts (say, 5?) with the rest being penalized would be a compromise?
Shurūtoyama on
February 17, 2022 9:18 AM
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I don’t think concerns about “engagement” are terribly relevant for this owner. Cuts should incur penalties at this point in the season.
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When Seatown missed the cut deadline last year, I reached out and made a few cap-penalty-free cuts. I didn't really set up a clear system of penalties for missing the deadline at the time. It's an awkward enforcement issue - if the penalty is harsh, it discourages engagement over the season. If Seatown reaches out again (preferably soon), I'd be comfortable making some cuts again, but absent intervention, all the regular cap penalties apply...
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Woah, that sucks
Fidelio on
February 16, 2022 8:51 AM
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Assuming they’re keeping the team: they have to work with the commissioner to make their roster valid. They’d incur penalties for these cuts. I think they’re ineligible to join the draft as a consequence for missing the deadline, too.
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What happens to teams who after the keeper deadline are still over $400 salary cap and/or 40 player limit?
Say-Hey Kid on
February 16, 2022 12:37 AM
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Looking to deal on the last day before cuts. Open to moving anything, but obviously some players are less available than others.
Fidelio on
February 15, 2022 8:32 AM
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Trade deadline this Tuesday! Still looking to deal. Check in with me. I have two or three quality pieces I may be willing to deal!
Say-Hey Kid on
February 12, 2022 3:55 PM
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I'm around
Fidelio on
February 8, 2022 12:56 PM
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Okay, so we've resolved those questions; what about Fidelio? He hasn't read messages going back to December 3rd..
Say-Hey Kid on
February 8, 2022 11:20 AM
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Good to see both teams back.
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he lives! (can I have Acuna now?)
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Sorry all! I am back and ready to go. Been a crazy last few months to say the least!
Rake-N-Bake on
February 4, 2022 4:00 PM
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I'm sorry I have not been active in the past months, but i'm definitely in and will be more involved now, even though the lockout seems to not be over :) I'll go over my team this weekend and try to answer trades and interest from my fellow league members. Hope y'all doing well otherwise.
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For that matter, the commissioner has been rather silent, as well.
Say-Hey Kid on
February 4, 2022 1:35 PM
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Duda Duda has been silent, too. No response to direct messages or trade proposals. Is he okay??
Say-Hey Kid on
February 3, 2022 6:01 PM
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Good question!
Say-Hey Kid on
February 3, 2022 12:09 AM
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Is Boomstix still in the league?
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Rule VIII-A. states that "After the keeper deadline and before the auction draft, teams may not cut or trade any players." There's no official trade deadline, actually, it's just that trades can't be made after the keeper deadline until the auction draft is completed.
So in short: Yes, the de facto trade deadline is extended as long as the keeper deadline is extended, which may be extended again if there's no contract agreement soon.
Shurūtoyama on
January 31, 2022 11:33 PM
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The trade deadline was supposed to end at the same time as the keeper deadline. With the latter extended to February 15th, does that mean the trade deadline is extended that date as well?
Say-Hey Kid on
January 29, 2022 6:43 PM
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I am in.
Shocknawe on
January 27, 2022 10:24 PM
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……I would also be open to a quality OF……
Say-Hey Kid on
January 11, 2022 5:06 PM
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January 31st is the deadline for both keepers and making trades prior to the draft. I am willing to consider dealing prospects Adley Rutschman, Spencer Torkelson, Sixto Sanchez, Helio Ramos, Luis Gil and Jairo Pomares. In return, I am looking for a quality third baseman, top SP, top RP and position players in general. In addition to prospects, others I am willing to trade are on my trading block. If you are interested, send me a message!,,
Say-Hey Kid
Say-Hey Kid on
January 10, 2022 2:55 AM
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I like Bananas.
Shocknawe on
December 1, 2021 9:12 PM
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This league is bananas with all the dealing! Bananas, I say!
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Might deal Berrios for cheaper controled mlb pieces.
Shocknawe on
December 1, 2021 7:46 PM
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That was my best Yoda-speak! You guys are all forewarned! Sorry in advance! Hope it's not to cringy! 😅
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TRADE BLOCK :
Greetings fellow Ottoneu-ians -- players I have yes, trade you want? Interest you might have, message me you can, availablemy team is yes yes
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one of whom is me!
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3 teams still need to do arbitration.
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I’m in
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I am in!
Shocknawe on
November 12, 2021 3:01 PM
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Can’t quit now. Got a distant second place trophy to defend.
Shurūtoyama on
November 12, 2021 2:28 PM
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I'm in
Mantis Shrimp on
November 12, 2021 7:45 AM
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I'll be returning!
Sweep The Leg on
November 12, 2021 2:43 AM
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Yarrrr, be returning we shall!!! 🏴☠️⚓️🐙
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Samesies -- Return of the KENEUBI
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Duda will be back!
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Four days left of arbitration! Also, if you could all chime in and let me know if you plan to return next season, that'd be great. I'll be here!
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Thanks, all! Another fun season. Glad we were able to have a more normal one this time around.
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Congrats to the Lowes! Great season, and also the fifth different winner for the 5th year of the league. Who's next ?!
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Congrats Highland!! Incredible season, well done!!
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