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Pham-why did you treat that guy so badly...LOL. How dare you ask a reasonable question. That shit was hilarious. Dude did not like you man. - You not make him feel welcome. This is be fun. I don't spending my time on this. I leave league if don't get me new owner league way. Me big baby if don't get me way.-That's what I heard anyway. At least we got a little entertainment out of his day in the league. New owner Andrew-you've got some hard shoes to fill(uh, not really).
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Ladies and Gents of this fine league. I have received a few trade offers which is nice to see and thank you for them. Since i just took the team over yesterday at 7pm, and am familiarizing myself with Ottoneu and the format which is very new to me(im 15yrs deep in roto/h2h yahoo 20tm dynasty etc) I am not making any trades for the next day or few days. I want to fully grasp everything before I engage. Sorry for any inconvenience. We can laugh about it when I take the c-ship this year :)
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Poof with the post of the season. I always enjoy referring to oneself in the third person. I agree with Poof on the 24 hour thing. This was one of those instances. Drew- aka Kosher Knishes- is being given one no penalty round of cuts. I hope he does this today. If not, it will happen soon. Thanks to everyone!
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Yep, looks like I missed a lot in one day. This is a perfect example of why we should not have changed the trade waiting period from 48 hours to 24 hours. Never saw the trade, no chance to vote, no chance to give opinion of the problem. All resolved with 48 hour waiting period. Just for the heck of it: glad it was canceled, I think it shoulda been, wasn't any bad treatment to him, dude was an ass, dude sucks with English on his post, glad he is gone, welcome new owner, Poof will win.
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Kosher Knishes's trade block has been updated!
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Hot Mess's trade block has been updated!
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And I don't even know what the deal was that got this wacky ball rolling
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Wow I missed a lot by not checking in for a day 😉. Welcome Andrew!
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I did think about this, but was worried I couldn’t get everyone’s involvement in the veto. I figure it was easier to
bank on Kraken’s intellect than my ability to get 6-7 to veto. Plus, I worried about the ethics of this to Kraken. Anyway...
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I find it interesting that we all (the other Owners) could have just vetoed the trade and none of this would have happened.
Welcome to the League Drew!!
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Kraken has agreed to cancel the trade. I want to thank her for the response and for the understanding of the situation. Great job league! Go baseball!
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Welcome to the league Andrew.
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Thank you. I will. No worries, Stud Foundations informed me about the trade issue. This one has nada to do with me so I am fine with whatever the lg chooses to do. Side note, somebody saying it was a mistake after the fact or by accident is such a cop out. I feel for the other manager involved. None of that will occur with me! Thanks again everyone!
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Welcome Drew. Look around, take it all in, change your team name. Once Kraken contacts me about that trade up there, I hope to rectify that situation as well. In the meantime, welcome. Enjoy yourself!
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Hi everyone! My name is Andrew. Drew works also. I am the new owner. I appreciate you guys giving me the opportunity to crush this lg. I really look forward to playing with you guys. This is my first Ottoneu lg. I will learn the scoring system and ins and outs quickly I assume. Im going to take a dive into this roster and lg a little later. Just wanted to drop a quick message. Thanks again!! PS - Can I go ahead and rename my team?
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Rizz, I feel your pain. I had the same struggle about a response earlier. I didn’t know I would set off such fireworks with one question. Definitely made for an interesting afternoon.
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FWIW. Andy, our old buddy emailed me directly to tell me off and claim I trashed him on the board. I did some Lol'ing and now I am doing everything in my power to not write back. 20 minutes, make a bad deal, get pissed that we want to discuss it. Get further pissed when I remind him that some people on the internet have hard and gruff tones and to chill out. And then ultimately quit. What a day in the history of our little Ottoneu league?!?
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1. New owner alert. This one comes from Stud. I also hear he likes quiet summer evenings of baseball and finishing just out of second to me. 2. I agree that we should cancel the trade, but I'd like Kraken's thoughts and/or input prior to make the decision. Kraken is one of the league's most active members. My hope is that she will understand this deal and quickly realize this is a trade that needs to be reworked.
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I would think it best to cancel this one. I think a new owner would like to make that decision for themselves and not suffer from something they didn’t have a part in. Release the Kraken can always send the trade again. And I mean suffer in that they would have to cut players they might not want to.. I think the trade is fine as far as players. It just needs a loan.
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Stud...you were fine. I told the new owner very early in this process that he be patient and not take offense. He immediately stayed offended by the tone of our discussions. I appreciate everyone’s critical discussion of the topic. I don’t enjoy people who claim it is for fun, but can’t handle when being fair is fun. Too bad. Again, thoughts on this trade up there will help.
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I personally think we let Kraken decide - At this point, since his team will be abandoned, the new owner will get 1 round of free cuts I believe anyways. I'm sorry if you guys though I acted out unfairly to him at the detriment of the league but I personally feel that his attitude during this whole discussion was very poor and gave me a bad feeling in general, not to mention what rushing into a deal after 20 minutes of looking at the team says. He seemed to think we were being crazy to discuss..
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Ladies and gentlemen, Eric...unsurprisingly to no one...decided to leave the league. Honestly, I was preparing to give him a friendly nudge. So, we are down an owner again AND there’s that real shitty deal up
There. Thoughts?
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To this end, I want to emphasize that the only reasons we are considering this request is 1. You are a new owner. 2. It’s a ‘fun’ non-money league. So, it’s because the league is for ‘fun’ that we are allowing the deal to be reconsidered. If this were for cash, this would be a different conversation. Thanks for being here. It’s a great and competitive league. But, we also want good conversations about the league’s present and future because...it’s fun.
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It IS about 2 teams, but the impact of any trade (renegotiated or not) is on all of the league. This is why we are allowed to veto trades. Our abilities to know how our teams organically work together is part of being a responsible owner.
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BTW, the commish told me in only involves 2 teams. This is be fun and if you cant understand mistakes happen and make this big a deal over this that will affect the league is crazy. So since you could care less if I'm in this league as a good Owner. Then I dont care either. So you can find a new owner. I'm out
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This trade affects everyone in the league, as every trade does. I apologize that you feel threatened but your self righteousness is a little bit offputting. You are the one who wasted all of our time by accepting a deal that you shouldn't have. We are politely sharing our opinions on the matter. If you think this is ridiculous or don't have time for a solution to be made then I'll be the first to say I could care less if you stay or go.. The discussion is reasonable to have given situation.
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The trade affects 2 teams here. I asked for a cancellation 5 minutes after The trade. That's matters. I dont spending my time on this. If you dont cancel it for a new owner then so be it. But probably won't stay in this league
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I absolutely don't think it was anything shady and have no problem with the trade. All I was saying was if Jacob's was new to Ottoneu cancel the trade or adjust it with a loan.
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Rules are rules, and it is fair to ask why a trade was agreed to without first getting to know the trade just as much as it is fair to ask for a cancellation of a mistake that was made for a new owner.
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I wouldn't be so quick to call anyone being unfriendly - I think there is just as much merit to consider past experience with Ottoneu in this case as it is the type of mistake that would not have been made normally by a veteran. That being said I don't think he was trying to say that even if you are experienced in Ottoneu that you were being shady. I think it was a mistake, but it is totally valid to question whether a mistake should be reversed.
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I respect any decision made and will make my decision on this league accordingly. Would love this stay
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I have had the team to review for 20 minutes
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The commish is nice but PHam doesn't make me feel welcome here. If certain owners want to stick to "rules" for a new owner then so be it. I just wont stay and will leave now
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Two items before this spirals down into "angry internet" territory. I do not have one single reason (nor does anyone else) to believe that anyone is doing anything nefarious to gain an advantage in this situation. The only thing I can see plainly is that a mistake was made. Anything beyond that is making an assumption about people we do not know. However, we must be fair to all parties and deal with this in a fair and judicious way. Let's remember this as we cast doubts.
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I believe by "negotiating the trade", I'm opening up the possibility that Kraken and Jacob@ can work on a loan. I think they need to figure out how that's going to work. But yes. Kraken gets her opinion heard and whether she would be open to renegotiating the trade with a loan (or adding/subtracting players) to make the trade work.
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Pham you are Wong- I just joined this league yesterday and just took this team over and have had about 20 minutes to review. I thought I had enough funds and I didn't. If this is how you treat a new owner, then I should consider leaving. We are all human and if reversing a trade for a new owner who hasn't spend much time reviewing my team then I feel sorry for you. We are all humans and we make mistakes. Not a way to welcome a new owner.
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I do think Kraken should have a say since she was negotiating in good faith.
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The question I would have is; is the new owner a veteran of Ottoneu? If so, then I think you would know how in season trades with loans work. It is also easy to see what your cap space is. If that is the case, I don't know that I would be in favor of cancelling the trade, because you should know to ask for a loan and if you didn't then just cut players to get legal. If this is the first foray into Ottoneu, then I wouldn't have a problem with this understanding that this is a one time thing.
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I'm fine with either decision - I think I would say i think it's best for the league if it is cancelled but I would want Kraken to have the choice to cancel the deal.
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On the surface, I want to grant a reprieve and cancel the trade because I believe Ericand Kraken will return and negotiate the trade. However, if I'm Kraken, I have a made deal and I expect a certain team when the deal is completed. That team won't be coming her way if I cancel the trade, and I believe that a certain sense of fairness must govern the way we make owner mistakes. I lean to allowing the cancel, because it's Eric's first day, but I'm not comfortable that this becomes a pattern.
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I don't have a hard rule to follow here in regards to cancelling a trade. In normal circumstances I would say 'no', but this is the first day in the league and there has to be some room for good faith bargaining and understanding the complexities of the league and your new team. But, because there's no rule, I need some help from the league. Do you mind me cancelling the trade? (my current opinion follows)
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I don't have a hard rule to follow here in regards to cancelling a trade. In normal circumstances I would say 'no', but this is the first day in the league and there has to be some room for good faith bargaining and understanding the complexities of the league and your new team. But, because there's no rule, I need some help from the league. Do you mind me cancelling the trade? (my current opinion follows)
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Please cancel the trade I just accepted. I didn't realize I don't have enough money.
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New owner for "Destroy" is Eric. I hear he enjoys lazy summer afternoons watching baseball and finishing a few points out of second place from me. Good luck on all of his endeavors. Welcome Eric!
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Hi league! Great start to the league. Nice work all around. Unfortunately, the owner of Destroy had a family crisis and needed to abandon his team. I removed him as the owner in the last minute, and the new owner should be signing up very shortly. I hope this doesn't interrupt the season too much, but it sounds like Andy was going through a difficult time. So welcome the new owner to our midst in the next few hours.
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Ka'anapali Krushers's trade block has been updated!
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Hot Mess's trade block has been updated!
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Giovanni's Beer Pong Mates 🍻's trade block has been updated!
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Stud Foundations's trade block has been updated!
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Evan Gattis is available for an outfield upgrade.
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