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If you check, wow, yes, $90 loaned, and a bunch of big wheels too. But on the return, a $1 baby Mookie Betts. Awesome deal.
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The trade Jamie was referencing, if you are interesd: https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/456/viewtrade?id=9392&pending=1
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Yes, I've seen that message. That's in all of our inboxes under the search term 'Jamie'
But the way I see it: That there was a dump trade an spirited debate ensued. And there was a vote. If you look at the date of the email, and then the trade in question, it wasn't that bad, and it narrowly passed, I believe. It's in the trade history on or just before Jamie's note.
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There you go guys, thus reason for my concern. Told I dont make up
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 5:24 PM
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plus the fact we've had 3 guys recently leave. So I'm writing to ask you to take a look and vote on the trade. One way or another. I'm not suggesting you should vote either way, but I think it's best if we atleast get 10 votes either way rather than 5 vetoes with 5 inactive votes. Thanks Jamie
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 5:24 PM
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Hello. We have another big-topic trade that some see very unbalanced, in part due to one team sending $90 so the other can afford all the star players he receives. I'd really like to avoid more issues in this regard right now after last weeks fiasco, plus the fact we've had 3 guys recently leave. So I'm writing to ask you to take a look and vote on the trade. One way or another. I'm not suggesting you should vote either way, but I think it's best if we atleast get 10 votes either way rather than
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 5:23 PM
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Good conversations today. Happy to see different opinions being shared without (much) name calling.
MLB the Sho on
May 19, 2019 5:22 PM
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I'm done with putting my 2 cents in. Have a great year everyone.
HUF! on
May 19, 2019 5:14 PM
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Anything sorry
HUF! on
May 19, 2019 5:02 PM
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Everything on this year?
HUF! on
May 19, 2019 5:01 PM
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Happy to share when im at my PC. Cant cut and paste on a phone
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:59 PM
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Every year and every league has one or two questionable trades. This league isn't unique. In my opinion this league has been really good about everything. I have no problem with someone voicing their opinion on stuff..(trades..drops..ect) . I'd like to see the proof ok. Batz. If anything funny is going on I think everyone should know...withholding proof is like being involved
HUF! on
May 19, 2019 4:57 PM
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I want to publicly apologize for the veiled insult I posted, directed at eric, a moment ago. I'm Canadian. We're supposed to be better than that. It was beneath me and I would like to take it back.
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Based on the history of the league I'm not the first to voice concern. I have proof
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:44 PM
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What are opinions like again?
Opinions are like Astros, there are billions of stars in the sky.
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It's called an opinion hells.
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:25 PM
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I always value pitching more. Just look at most trading blocks......wanted SP's. I valued hitters alot more the for the two years in this league....didnt win. But thats just me
HUF! on
May 19, 2019 4:24 PM
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I'm a guy who stands to be affected by this deal, unlike you, and I'm not bothered by it. Just relax. No one traded Mike Trout for salary relief (yet). This is ottoneu, it's built on trading and building relationships in order to be able to make those trades.
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Eric, haven't you stirred up enough $h!t in this league? Like honestly, just give it a rest and try to enjoy the season. I know I'd personally like you to consider abandoning your team at year's end.
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Never said that. Fact he send loan also is the issue. I read some owners had a major issue a few years ago with same situation. Why send salary
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:22 PM
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1.99 era .75 whip that's top t in nl
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:19 PM
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Lmao didnt this guy say he would have understood if it was just Marte for Meadows and salary relief?? That would be a complete ass ramming of a trade
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Wait, my logic is insane yet you just called Paddack a top 5 SP? He’s not even close by total points or PPI.
The Worm on
May 19, 2019 4:15 PM
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Marte at $20 isn't very appealling to me, I dont know why the heck that would be vetoed.
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I'm glad the guys involved have weighed in.
This is ottoneu. It's built for dump trades just like this. Paddack is a pitcher and inherently volitile as such. Meadows is a better hitter than Paddack is pitcher. And when building a core, one should always centre on bats first and add pitching at the moment you're able to contend.
Thanks fo speaking for yourselves guys. I hope this goes through.
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Both trade partners logic is insane. Dont believe there is collusion but their reasoning for the trade opens up minds. So.suspects gets a top 5 pitcher and marte for a good hitter. To call meadows top 5 is obsurd and just a reason to push thr deal through.
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:11 PM
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I dont think that's an accurate assessment of Paddack... but I understand the logic.
I just don't think the veto should be used to correct trades like this. Not fair to the accepting team, and not fair to let the offering team off the hook. In Steed's opinion, he got the best player in the trade, but he probably realizes he could have given up less to do so.
I won't quit the league if it is veto'd, but I doubt I will be voting to veto.
MLB the Sho on
May 19, 2019 4:06 PM
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Everyone on the pro-veto train is being ridiculous. Paddack's MLB track record is literally a month and change. Meanwhile Marte is a low power-low OBP guy on the wrong side of 30, while Meadows is showing top-5 overall caliber upside. And Musial's point stands Batzuek. You can't complain about trades when you refuse to partake. You alone have caused more BS than all of the teams combined over my past 2+ years in the league.
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Of course its not veto to you since you made the deal. Paddock has been highly regarded for a few years and is proving it. Pretty fishy IMO
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:00 PM
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Also, if you’re going to refuse to trade with half the league on “principle”, remember that will throw off trade values. Feel free to veto this, but if you do please have a defensible reason other than “this seems off to me.” For example, even though Martes salary might be keepable, he’ll likely be a cut for me since I am already over the cap with loans. So Steeds will probably have the option of bidding on him next year.
The Worm on
May 19, 2019 3:59 PM
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Meadows has outscored Marte by 80 points while playing 2/3 of the games he’s played. Also remember Meadows is a former top prospect who looks like he finally remembered how to hit. So I got a middle of the pack OF and a SP with virtually no track record for a top prospect who’s raking. This certainly doesn’t seem veto-able to me.
The Worm on
May 19, 2019 3:55 PM
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Sounds good man, hopefully you can send me a sweet offer in a couple days then.
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Marte is still a keeper at $20. Not buying this story and this time others agree.
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 3:44 PM
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Listen if someone will give me more for Paddack and Marte by all means veto away haha— but I was happy that he accepted the deal. I think I turned a profit on Paddack vs when I traded for him two weeks ago, and I think he’s a major candidate for regression, obviously he could be a stud but I feel better about my roster post-trade.
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Let's hope it gets vetoed. Nice try mighty.
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 3:32 PM
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I’m happy to show messages to prove there was no collusion - that was an inbound offer from Steads that I didn’t solicit in any way. I think it’s weighted my way this year but he gets a great building block bat for next.
The Worm on
May 19, 2019 3:31 PM
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Definitely no collusion, maybe should’ve shopped Paddack around a bit more but I offered him in a few deals already and feel confident that Meadows is the better long term bet. For me the trade was Meadows for Paddack, which personally was happy to do, and Marte as an add-in that’s about an average OF in our format and likely not a keeper at that price.
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I hear you guys. This is definitely one that tests my personal policy.
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I can see meadows and marte with salty dump but adding g paddack at $6 for a team in 10th place? That's a player you dont throw in
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 3:06 PM
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Hells, I vetoed this time in case you are taing names.
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Agreed
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Yep veto. Marte and paddack? Ok
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 1:07 PM
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Cienfuegos Elefantes's trade block has been updated!
MLB the Sho on
May 18, 2019 10:05 AM
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WTF's trade block has been updated!
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WTF's trade block has been updated!
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I have a couple of players coming off the 60 day DL in the next month or so. Justin Upton and Didi... I think Didi could be ready to go by the end of May, and Upton sometime in June.
If you are interested in trading for either, now might be a good time to send an offer. The price will only increase as they get closer. Both on 60 day, so they wont be taking up a roster spot until they are helping your team.
Obviously I am looking for players that can help me win next year, and/or prospects.
MLB the Sho on
May 13, 2019 8:37 PM
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Well I'm not saying I'm an saint but the commish has been aggressive with me on several occasions and has made no effort to want to resolve our issues. 2 owners told me personally that his calling me out was not right. Rather than always attack me the commish calls me the victim. If the commish wants to.rsoce this with me then we can move forward. Balls in your court 50
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 7:39 PM
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Well, it would appear, if you guys search the term 'Jamie' in your inbox, you will see messages from what is now Houston Astros team signed Jamie. Looks like he was the commish based on talk of scheduling a draft night; asking the league to vote on a trade he viewed as unbalanced. However, my question was just intended to be fun - not a sausage measuring contest. Haha. Good-word, the vitriol from some quarters. :P
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Listen someone brought up about who is in the league since day 1. Asking if anyone knew Jamie or rusty.
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 6:54 PM
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My comment was that the person he took over for was not the commissioner. Honestly, I couldn't care less. I don't know what this guy's problen is. He just stirs shit up and I have had enough. It has made the league less fun and it won't continue.
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