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Final reminder: the keeper deadline is tonight at 11:59pm EST / 9:59pm PST. Any player not kept must be carried on your team through the auction. After the auction, anyone may be cut for the normal penalty.
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I vote Lock on 2/15, no penalty free cuts.
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Ditto.
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I’m willing to go with 2/15.
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According to Niv's link at the top of our league page, it appears 2/15 will be the official keeper lock date. There is an option to give each team 1 round of penalty free cuts if we want to go that route (i.e. waiting where FAs land etc if that impacts your keeper selections), but my preference would be to lock with the 2/15 deadline. Does anyone feel strongly otherwise?
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@BOP - Nope, I made this mistake last year and rightfully got called on it. The rules say "Before the end of arbitration, players may not be cut. Between the end of arbitration and the keeper deadline, players may be cut or traded. After the keeper deadline and before the auction draft, teams may not cut or trade any players."
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Please refresh my memory. Can you still drop between the keeper deadline and the draft? Does trading stop between keeper deadline and draft?
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I am interested in the team with the opening. How do I apply
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Team available in a fun league (3rd place last season): https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/1010/team?team=7194
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Reminders! Teams that need to renew by 1/31 = Lucien. Due to the lockout, Niv moved the keeper deadline to 2/15 instead of 1/31. All cuts currently need to be made before 2/15 at 11:59 EST. All players remaining on your team will be kept.
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I remain hopeful -- hoping they can get it done!
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Not looking good for baseball this year. I guess my garden will get more attention. My wife will be thrilled. What do you guys think? When will we see the first pitch?
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Owners that need to pay league dues and renew their teams by 1/31: Lake City, Luck of Lucien, KC Bones, Bluegrass, Indian Rocks Beach. Looking forward to another fun season!
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Welcome BigP! Glad to have you. @PBP - I think Ottoneu must have defaulted to that. No draft date was been selected and I'm guessing we'll likely do a slow draft again. I'll send out a poll in then next few weeks regarding availability for a live action and we can go from there.
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Welcome Big Papi. I see we have a date for the draft. Are we planning on a slow draft again? Or do I need to block out some evenings to sit in front of the computer?
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Cataline, we appreciate the heads up. I’ll abandon your team right now.
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Commish, could you mark me as abandoned? I just didn't have the time to devote too those last season, and I'm not seeing it improving this summer.
Wiz Wit on
December 30, 2021 9:27 PM
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Agreed. Better not be a 1994 situation.
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All I want for Christmas is an end to this lockout. Hope you guys all have a good holiday season. Look forward to harassing every one of you in 2022.
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I like turtles
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I also like fantasy baseball
AZ Batflips on
November 23, 2021 2:56 PM
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I like Fantasy Baseball
OnBaseBunters on
November 17, 2021 2:18 PM
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Why trade for him when we can vote him off instead? :) The following teams will need to renew their teams by 12/31 - preferably sooner rather than later: Me, Capitol, Gar-Ber, Cataline, Lucien, OnBase, KC, Bluegrass, and Rocks Beach.
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The guy that sat on my trade block with absolutely no offers was the one voted off. Cool, I guess.
Wiz Wit on
November 15, 2021 11:13 AM
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Its like Christmas morning, and in the words of Eric Cartman "I hate you guys, I hate you guys, so much".
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@KC and @Rocks Beach -- tomorrow is the last day for Arb voting.
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Just kidding, two weeks to vote
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Two weeks to allocate your allocation allocators!
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I agree with you Permian but we can try to keep the peace as often as we can!
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I just took a beating on Slack. I think the 100% consensus was "Veto Bad". Seriously, no one agreed with me. I am not here to hurt anyone's feelings or cause discontent. I am in for the long haul and do not want to make anyone's fantasy baseball experience unpleasant. I just had a different view of things and apparently that view was not based in reality.
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Bluntly, it's a stupid argument. Every trade made not involving you should be disadvantaging your team in relation to the teams moving to improve theirs.
Wiz Wit on
October 19, 2021 10:34 AM
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I don't understand any argument against vetoing. We are all happy to use arbitration to vote someone off someone else's team. No problem bidding up a player so an other team cant get him too cheap. We use every legal tool at our disposal to try and win this game, but for some reason hitting the veto button is out of bounds? Why? Are you guys tired of me blathering on yet? OK, climbing off the soapbox now.
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I understand both of your arguments. This year we had one trade that proceeded to go to a lengthy debate and not all of us have time to check daily, albeit most of us do. I don't think adding 24 hours to review time is a bad thing. Will it result in more vetos? I hope not, because I also trust everyone at this point to make deals in their best interests and I have yet to veto a trade in this league. But discussions are sometimes worth having.
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and that should be their, not there.
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I trust the group to act in there own best interest as well. But there best interest may be in complete opposition to my best interest. This is a game and if I perceive someone else's trade will disadvantage me then I am going to veto it. In my perfect fantasy world, I would like everyone else to see things my way and veto it as well. It's not a moral failing to play within the rules and act in your own best interest. Its part of the game. It's not policing, its strategy.
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I guess we'll disagree. I trust the group to act in their own best interest with trades and don't feel like I need time to police every one else's team.
Wiz Wit on
October 18, 2021 9:59 AM
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We can agree to disagree, but I think a trade can slip through and get missed in 24 hours. Especially before the season starts. Less likely in 48.
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1) Trades aren't auctions, so why would they be the same length?
2) Why do we need "more time to hit the veto button"? 24 hours is enough, while letting people get the players they traded for in an expeditious manner.
Wiz Wit on
October 18, 2021 9:00 AM
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Auction takes 48 hours, why shouldn't a trade approval?
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More time to hit the veto button.
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What does it help?
Wiz Wit on
October 18, 2021 8:49 AM
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What does it hurt?
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Why are we lengthening the trade window? Seriously, what does that accomplish?
Wiz Wit on
October 17, 2021 9:06 AM
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Here is what I think we should do, so please let me know of any complaints: 1) 48 hour trade window 2) normal arbitration system this off-season (1 player voted off per team) -- we can vote now on vote-off vs. allocation starting in the 2022-2023 offseason, but I don't think it's a good idea to change this year based on how we have built our teams, 3) no divisions.
I am not aware of anyone wishing to leave the league. If you are, I'd ask that you communicate that now and not vote i
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Zod is Back. I vote for the two week playoff. I dont know what a 48 vrs 24 hr trade approval makes any difference. I dont think a trade has been voted down. This is the third year and everyone here I trust to make trades that help their team. Arb is two days away. I am open to ideas on division or one division and allocations. Just dont know if we have time to change the arb system. I also like the slow draft. Have a good offseason everyone.
Super Crazy on
October 13, 2021 3:24 PM
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Is everyone sticking around for next year? Informally it appears as if people are up for getting rid of divisions, keeping vote off arbitration. Not sure about lengthening trade approval time from 24 to 48 hours? I see one person against it, I am for it. What is the advantage of shortening the playoffs? I thought two weeks was fine, but I am not married to that a compelling argument could make me change my mind. I wish I had been in the two week playoffs, but that is another matter.
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I vote no divisions. I’m fine with the two matchup weeks. Keep vote off system bc a change would be too disruptive to currently implemented strategies.
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I also would like to put shortening the championship from 2 weeks to 1 up for discussion post season.
Wiz Wit on
September 22, 2021 7:33 PM
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My thoughts and votes. 1.No feelings either way on trade vote time. 2. I really want to keep the vote off and avoid a draft like the plague. It defeats all purpose of trading later and in my experience creates significant issues when trades happen. It also defeats any purpose of value on players and what we aim to build year after year. I go so far to only have 1 dollar increases on MLB and 0 increase on players that do not play in the majors. 3. No divisions and top 2 have bye week in playoffs.
OnBaseBunters on
September 21, 2021 9:50 PM
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Congrats Conspiracy, I wish you had beaten me by 200 instead of 2!
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