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The first trade was collusion, the one today was a troll-job, which I also vetoed. I have to say I've enjoyed the comic relief today, but I'm going to veto every subsequent trade you two make together because you're colluding, or "genius" is just running both teams. I mean shit, it's fantasy baseball, you're going to cheat to win? Come on. Props for making spring training entertaining though.
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I've been playing Ottoneu for 5 years and I've never seen a bad trade get dunked on so hard. God I love this league. Keep keepin' it real, everyone <3
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Im still buying you a drink.
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Ok, Whitey. You act like I don't care about winning this league or take this league seriously? I do and I want everyone to know that! ... I am sorry to you and all of the other owners! I wish you all the best of luck this year!
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don't need a hug... i just need you to listen to everyone and get educated on how this all works. fucks everyone over when really bad deals go down.
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lol you need a hug whitey. Next time your in town, I’ll get you a drink.
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also, 8 people vetoed... it's not just me sending hate to the deal
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i guess it's fair to say it's not collusion, but clearly just that you don't knwo what you're doing.
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this sounds like it was even written by picz. No, other gms would be able to articulate why they wanted the return they got... not just, i like them more. can't even make sense of your kopech comment. it almost seems like you are arguing against yourself. and also not sure why gary sanchez keeps getting brought up by you and picz. and I don't know you and don't want your love. the vetoed deal was horrible by any measure other than what you are thinking in your head.
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Lol salty White.
What do I have to justify? Are you the ON judge? I liked the players I was getting in return. Just like any other GM would say. There is always going to be a conceived winner and loser in any deal. Have you ever seen how real sports work? I graded those players higher than you. Unless you can tell the future? And know that Kopech doesn’t come back from TJ, then I suggest you simmer down judge white. Enjoy Gary 36 dollar Sanchez. Lol.
Still love you man.
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the new season just started so we are all in the same place... i can explain how that works a different time. honestly, the entire league vetoed the deal bc it was that bad. I dont' think anyone vetoed any deal at all last year. like, not a single vote. i'm eager to hear what your justification is for these deals as well.
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Hahah “collusion theory “ I hate to say this, but this is fake news. I have talked to other owners about trades, not just working through Pibbs. So your statement holds no value. I will make sure to add you to my rolodex and run every trade by you though in the future.
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I’m sure you both can understand in Ottoneu where trades are almost never vetoed why this wouldn’t be a great look or great for the league after a near unanimous veto from the disinterested parties
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It might help if you helped us understand why you’re so eager To dump chapman but uninterested in talking to the rest of the league about what you might get for him. Ultimately I don’t care about the return as long as owners are maxmizing their return and talking to more than 1 owner is the way to do that
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Hahaha the last time I laughed that hard, I feel off my dinosaur . Don’t you play the helping out the new guy card. The only reason you vetoed it is because Pibbs was on the other end. Maybe you should be more focused on getting out of 8th place??
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love how he tells us all to simmer down when we are trying to keep him from getting ripped... and then he goes out and gets ripped again. he did not shop him to me.
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Is the goal here to make two teams better or just get some better players on the defending champs team? Did anyone that had piped up get contacted re Chapman after the veto?
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This should go over well... Eating Popcorn GIF.
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Deathstar, how many messages have you received since before the draft was over from Kopicz? Do yourself a favor and move his email address to your spam folder.
Just say No
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There was zero collision. I proposed the deal. Simmer down everyone.
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If you think it’s collusion then go pound sand, dude. Deal was offered to me. If you want more information then ask Brad. Don’t come around here accusing me of collusion.
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I vetoed. Either collusion or a screwjob on a novice.
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The big issue is just please shop big name assets before you move them
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*competitive (stupid iPhone typing)
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Have to be honest don’t love some of the comments genius and I sort of am starting to wonder about the trade and the competivr aspects of it. So rest of the league, just FYI, I vetoed it as well
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I vetoed. This guy doesn’t represent us.
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No one in this league vetos. Good luck.
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Well the trade can still be vetoed so if the attitude is just ignore and whatever presumably that would be no problem to see it vetoed
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To each his own. Don’t care if my cap is 4 grand as long as I win.
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Dude, now your team has $448 budget on 2/17, and you just traded away 4 piles of shit for 3 serviceable players. If you claim you don't understand how that gives you a massive competitive advantage for the season, you're lying. The guy who offered the trade is either a complete novice, or flat out just helping you win. And yeah, if guys like Tatis Jr, and Whitley were in the deal, or if it was 8/31, there would be no issue with it.
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Duuuuude. If you wanna sit there and criticize each one of us, fine, but at least admit it's a rip deal and kindly explain to your pal how you just hosed him and set his rebuild back a year. Make that shit a teachable moment.
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I don't think anyone said that he can't offer you a trade or that you can't accept a trade. All we've said is that the trade sucked. So why are you getting defensive again?
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Trade was offered to me buddy. Brad can trade for whoever he likes and wants. Just like you can draft Sanchez for $36. To each his own
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I guess we need to break it down and explain it... picz, if you would've gotten that return for some players that would have had some surplus for next year, like whitley or tatis, then there would be an argument for how the loan would make sense. In this deal, you got $60 worth of value for whatever the hell a 1B only ryan o'hearn will be and if kopech can recover and somehow find command... after he recovers from TJ. Oh and he's already $6.
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This trade is 💩
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And Carl made zero trades. Joe catz took the team over and made trades.
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Dude. What don’t you understand about even money loan trades? It affects nothing with salary cap and just hurts the other owner after the season. Just bc you don’t give loans for some reason to make a deal even doesn’t mean it makes even money deals bad for an owner who stated he’s rebuilding a month ago already.
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Honestly, it’s just like those trades with “the carl” last year that destroyed the competitive balance by giving two teams a big budget advantage before a game was played. Is this guy just a Patsy to get money and players off of, then not play the year?
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He’s your friend, picz. He wanted to learn to play ottoneu, and you gotta do him like this. Smdh you’d trade Dexter Fowler to your own mother
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who did he want? I'm not sure who the value guy is in that... at least tatis and whitley have massive upside
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Act as if you didn’t make out in the Mish deal. If that’s who he wanted then that’s who he wanted. Deal with it.
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For anyone else who’s confused and scared and considering a deal like the one that just went down...you don’t have to suffer alone. Message me, send a text, you’re not alone. Being ripped off doesn’t mean the end of your life. It gets better <3
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Miguel Cabrera is a more valuable piece than anyone you just gave up in that deal, good lord is this a turd
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Anyone else moving deals like that please check in with me I’ll give you a quick answer on whether I can beat that kind of return or not
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no, that's a shitty deal... no matter what else was being offered it doesn't make it suck any less
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Maybe you’re just salty bc you offered brad dog shit for judge and Chapman. No one wants Miggy
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Heavens to betsy, worst trade of the year and it ain’t even close
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