• He has averaged 1022 since 2007. I bet he's in the top 10 out of everyone for the past 7 years

  Merrill will be your Peril on December 28, 2015 5:04 PM

• Waino was a reliver that's why. When he has been a starter full season is what I'm saying

  Merrill will be your Peril on December 28, 2015 4:58 PM

• Hahahahahahaha....

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 4:37 PM

• Queso and Redbirds... go!

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 4:17 PM

• I see no reason, going forward, why every trade should not generate a 50-post fallout. Someone make a deal so we can do this again.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 4:16 PM

• Since 2007, he has averaged 844 points per season

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 3:05 PM

• its close... I say No... But, it could go either way... Strasburg out!!! Lester out!!! Carasco and Archer in

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 3:03 PM

• Lat 3 seasons he has averaged 558 points

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 3:03 PM

• Waino's first full season 2007. 4 times has he scored 1100+. Less than half the time.

  Momento Mori 💀 on December 28, 2015 3:01 PM

• Which puts him right at about 10th pitcher. 1,100 is also low balling it.

  Merrill will be your Peril on December 28, 2015 2:54 PM

• Waino puts about 1100 points up per season....

  Merrill will be your Peril on December 28, 2015 2:52 PM

• As Cheaters very accurately stated, I want the world for him. You have not offered the world. Until you are prepared to do so, you cannot have him.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 2:50 PM

• I want Jose... Enough of this nonsense. lol, look just give him to me : )

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 2:47 PM

• Yeah you can pick him over some of those guys. A lot of people might. There are one or two I would choose him over. But I only had to find 10 that you wouldn't to keep him from being a top 10 pitcher. That was more my point. Also, how many points is an All-Star selection worth?

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 2:45 PM

• Sale and Max were on the first list of 10. Like the 2nd and 3rd names mentioned after Kershaw. Tell Chris I'm sorry. I'll kick out Sonny Gray to make room for him.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 2:42 PM

• Yeah I did. But you want the world for him so I passed... Also waino is better than Lester Noah Ross corrasco keuchel.. At least to me he is. I may be biased being a cards fan but waino has put up all star stats every year he's been in the league. I don't think Lester was even an all star this year? Same for Carasco. Harvey is a huge question mark after the playoffs last yesr

  Merrill will be your Peril on December 28, 2015 2:41 PM

• Lol.... You know who I want... Don't play games Archer, Sale, and Max got there feelings hurt when you did not mention their names too

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 2:28 PM

• Shizzo, I will trade you Belt for Seager. Belt is a terrific option for 1st base.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 2:24 PM

• Cheaters, you just tried to get Fernandez from me 3 days ago! And you never asked about Wainwright. Now you like Wainwright more? So take JoFer out. So that puts wainwright 10th on that list from earlier. Do you also take him over every one of Grienke, Harvey, Cole, Kluber, Keuchel, Ross, Gray, Noah, Lester and Carrasco?

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 2:15 PM

• all this talk of trading is getting me a little hungry... Seager anyone? Other than built. lol

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:51 PM

• Now you wait a minute easy.... dont you dare speak ill of Jose....

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:41 PM

• Sorry. Gotta clock out for lunch. Have a good day sir.

  🏰TheKingdom🏰 on December 28, 2015 1:41 PM

• My top 10 would not consist of Jose gethurteverseason fernandez. Also do not think miggy is going to have a full healthy season again. Waino plays in about 30 games... So he can manage to play the whole season at his age... And not to mention is a really good price for his value. My opinion is that miggy is worth 35$ not 50$.. But anything can happen. Just my opinion

  Merrill will be your Peril on December 28, 2015 1:39 PM

• Lmao!!! I fell off my chair... I want know from your team.

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:38 PM

• Lmao!!! I fell off my chair... I want know from your team.

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:37 PM

• Thank you Carcass, I will take that under advisement. Though, per public standing offer, I would probably just trade him to Cheaters for cuts instead.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 1:37 PM

• Adam Wainwright

  🏰TheKingdom🏰 on December 28, 2015 1:36 PM

• If you weren't cutting him before, you should think about cutting degrom now

  Momento Mori 💀 on December 28, 2015 1:34 PM

• Built, what would you give up for Cabrera?

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:34 PM

• No sir... lol, I have said my piece.

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:32 PM

• oh! Who am I cutting now that I wasn't before? I need to know! Also, this was an amazing drive by from Cheaters. Got the heated reaction from me and led to two teams that had nothing to do with the trade having an argument. Truly 10/10.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 1:32 PM

• Shizzo: first, Cabrera IS an important player. Second, I don't believe Arbitrary is cutting anyone of importance. Do not clock out for lunch. Please give me a list of important players Arbitrary will have to cut by taking on Miguel Cabrera on company time.

  🏰TheKingdom🏰 on December 28, 2015 1:30 PM

• Built: explain to me why getting Cabrera, which will make him cut other important players, was worth it

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:26 PM

• According to their page, belt has 1st as well as Ortiz. So that is my point. They combine half the cost of Cabrera and will offer possible a point difference. You can fill another roster spot for the extra 30 bucks.

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:24 PM

• Belt has OF eligibility. Ortiz at UTL, Miggy at 1B. What is your point?

  🏰TheKingdom🏰 on December 28, 2015 1:22 PM

• What did belt and ortiz average per game? Last season?

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:17 PM

• I saw Papi. lol I am using Cabrera's age as a crutch and to be fair, Papi is almost 40.

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:15 PM

• That is an interesting strategy Shizzo. Trading valuable assets for players you intend on cutting. Please use company time to explain this further. I want to know first why you would trade an asset of value for a player you think will be a cut. Second, I would like you to explain in detail how many dollars 7 points per game is worth in Otto.

  🏰TheKingdom🏰 on December 28, 2015 1:14 PM

• Big Papi is not amused that you consider Belt a terrific option at 1B. He considers this bulletin board material.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 1:11 PM

• I mean I would have done the same thing if I was Andy. Just to make sure he is available for our draft. Seee Tulo, Cano, and Felix

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:03 PM

• Also, he has Belt as a terrific option at first base, IMO.

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 1:02 PM

• I think waino is a top 10 pitcher on a great contract.

  Momento Mori 💀 on December 28, 2015 1:02 PM

• I barely want to pay 48 for Rizzo at first. I think we all would agree his arrow is pointing up. If Cabrera had 3rd, I would say definitely not.... However looking at my team and Andys team, Cabrera is a cut. Also, I feel he will start to decline soon

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 12:59 PM

• Yes it was. Shizzo: please use company time to explain your opinion.

  🏰TheKingdom🏰 on December 28, 2015 12:57 PM

• Trade was worth it just to get the message board going

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 12:55 PM

• Shizzo: please explain in detail why you feel Miggy is a cut.

  🏰TheKingdom🏰 on December 28, 2015 12:49 PM

• Miggy is a cut, but maybe that was your intention, and Waino is not a top 10 pitcher.

  Shizzo and The 🧠 on December 28, 2015 12:44 PM

• Because I'm stuck at work and a little bored, which SP of the following are you taking Waino ahead of: Kershaw, Sale, Scherzer, Arrieta, Strasburg, Fernandez, Bumgarner, Price, Felix, DeGrom. I think I could go 5-10 more before the question even becomes interesting but would enjoy what others think

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 12:44 PM

• I wish we had voting buttons. I would start two polls. 1. Is Miggy a cut at? 2. Is waino a top 10 pitcher? Would be curious to see the results. My vote is no and no - which of course it is or i wouldnt have made the trade.

  Andyfa Empire 🥷🏼 on December 28, 2015 12:38 PM

• If anyone wants to trade top 10 pitchers for cuts please come to me! I will gladly take them

  Merrill will be your Peril on December 28, 2015 12:29 PM

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