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I'm willing to give the benefit of doubt to Blumpkins and Crusaders for past moves. I do think there has been enough suspicious behavior to warrant the league to clearly state the standards for acceptable trades between all teams going forward, with an increased focus on making sure trades between Blumpkins and Crusaders meets these standards:
5, 6, 7, 8's on
November 28, 2015 3:07 PM
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Tuffy is just sore bc he didn't win. He's the one who needs to leave, and any trade he makes needs to be vetoed as he has clearly stated that he will make trades solely to "fuck us." I've been playing fantasy baseball for 17 years and I have never seen anything like this. GROW THE FUCK UP OR GO AWAY
Look Out Bello on
November 28, 2015 1:52 PM
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season to season) or go somewhere else.
Look Out Bello on
November 28, 2015 1:49 PM
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Christ you guys take all of this way too seriously. Cespedes is a top 12-15 OF, Harvey is a top 10-15 SP, Tanaka has some value as a second piece. You can look at any trade that happened 6-12 months ago and call it unfair, every trade I have made here passed without veto. If I hadn't won the league, would anyone be complaining about this? I'm not leaving unless I'm thrown out, so either take on the challenge of beating me(which should be pretty easy, considering how much things change
Look Out Bello on
November 28, 2015 1:49 PM
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You are not taking context into account. when I first traded cespedes to Blumpkins, he was coming off a 23 Homerun season I got two major league top 10 prospects in return this year he's coming off a 35 home run season. Can you not see there is a huge difference
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Collusion is cheating I never cheated I never received anything for Blumpkins winning we are not friends we are not in any other leagues together I never received any money or any favor for trading players to him there's no rule against trading the same player back and forth every trade I made was intended to make my team better
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A couple of thoughts here...
1. I am not a fan of disbanding the league. Many of us have put significant time into shaping our rosters over the past couple of years.
2. Any deal moving forward between them should be just looked upon as colluding. Thus, just veto the trade - that's our power as league members and a way to ensure collusion does not happen.
3. A simple solution to this is to ask one of them to leave. Finding an owner will not be a problem.
Ump Yours on
November 28, 2015 8:11 AM
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I have emailed everyone my response to this situation, if you did not receive my email let me know and I will resend it. Otherwise, let me know your thoughts. Good night.
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And it's a total joke to say that you got a "better" return than Harvey when the guys you actually got in return are players that you traded to him previously for garbage! You can keep trying to refocus the debate all you want. The point is, you're a cheater. You're not as good as you think at hiding it. No one buys your bullshit.
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There's no rule against trading players back and forth. I never did it to help Blumpkins. every trade I made was to help my team. Everyone of you had the same opportunity to make trades with me.
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You traded the same players back and forth multiple multiple multiple times. It's a joke. Give it up, cheaters. No one believes you.
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As far as the salary goes that's part of trading expensive players for cheaper ones. the Commish spent almost $90 more than Blumpkins last year who are we accusing him of being in cahoots with?
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Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. You were his farm team. You gave him a great deal of your salary and served as his extra roster spots. It's not about any one trade. It's about how you clearly worked together to maximize his chances of winning. Just leave already. You did once tonight, which makes me think one or both of you (if there are actually two of you) figured out the jig was up. You guy(s) are cheaters. Just leave. Not even the commish believes your bs at this point.
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How many trade offers on those and other players did I send to all owners in this league? Last year blumkins wanted it more. How many of you turned down my Ortiz trades? He gave me Harvey. No one in this league would was willing to make that trade now this year I flip him for an even better return that helps my team
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I was wrong that the set up man had value I thought Straub had a real good chance in Chicago I got Houston Street set up man he always gets hurt but he didn't last year and the Pirates closer look like mud for the first month
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The one that sticks out to me is when I traded three closers for a handful of setup men and a prospect but if you look at it I was right two out of those three closers lost their jobs
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Alcanatra (traded twice)
Souza (4)
Rondon (2)
Melky Cabrera (4)
Harvey (2)
Cespedes (2)
Kazmir (3)
Tanaka (2)
This was in addition to Crusaders SHIPPING SALARY to Blumpkins so that he could maintain an astronomical budget. The one decent player Crusaders got for all his effort was Harvey, who he just returned. This is obvious collusion. It's embarrassing that Blumpkins keeps denying it. Just leave already, man. You got your prize money. Time to defraud another group.
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Where is the shipping of talent from one team to another for little or no return? where is the off balance trade?
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Thank you. I did not feel like going through the records to pull those trades up
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My last two posts outline all of the trades between Crusaders and Blumpkins over the last year. If you look (not even that closely) you can see that Crusaders served as the farm system for Blumpkins. Crusaders shipped Bumpkins a good deal of salary and acted as a weigh-station for players that Bumpkins wanted to keep but couldn't use at the time. They traded the same players back and forth constantly, showing that Crusaders was little more than Blumpkins AAA affiliate. Here are the obvious ones:
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My last two posts outline all of the trades between Crusaders and Blumpkins over the last year. If you look (not even that closely) you can see that Crusaders served as the farm system for Blumpkins. Crusaders shipped Bumpkins a good deal of salary and acted as a weigh-station for players that Bumpkins wanted to keep but couldn't use at the time. They traded the same players back and forth constantly, showing that Crusaders was little more than Blumpkins AAA affiliate. Here are the obvious ones:
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6/6 Crusaders gets McCullers and Urias, Blumpkins gets Tankaka
7/7 Crusaders gets Matt Harvey and Nomar Mazara and Bumpkins gets Souza, Ortiz, and Melky Cabrera
7/18 Crusaders gets Melky Cabrera for Jim Johnson
7/26 Crusaders gets Grichuk and Bumpkins gets Roberto Osuna and Melky Cabrera
11/23 Crusaders gets Castro and Blumpkins gets Kazmir and Souza
11/27 Crusaders gets Cespedes and Tanaka and Blumpkins gets Harvey
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Trade 2/20 Crusaders gets Polanco, Glasnow; Blumpkins gets Shoemaker, Pearce, and Cespedas
Trade 3/6 Crusaders gets Alcantara; Blumpkins gers Urias
Trade 3/30 Crusaders gets Souza and Blumpkins gets Alcantara
4/27 Cruaders gets Strop, Carminero, Joe Smith, Rondon, Urias; Blumpkins gets Storen, Papelbon, Ciseck
4/28 Crusaders gets Robertson/Pereza; Blumpkins gets Trumbo and Revere
5/7 Crusaders gets Storen, Melkey Caberra; Blumpkins gets Kazmir, Rondon, Urias
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If you have 5 closers and trade one to me and then two months later, two of your closers get injured while I fall out of contention and trade that close her back to you. Were we in collusion or did circumstances just change?
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The early returns for my trade of Kyle Shwarber for Addison Russell says that was a bad trade. Archer to you was a bad trade. Duffy to the Commish was a bad trade. Who am I in cahoots with with, all of you?
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The only person I'm defending is me I make trades that I think will help my team sometimes I'm wrong
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I don't have any problem with this trade. Cespedes for Harvey would be fair in my opinion.
5, 6, 7, 8's on
November 27, 2015 11:13 PM
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Obviously you are having trouble noticing we did not trade Harvey back 3 or 4 times he had Harvey last year traded him to me I traded him in the offseason for something that I thought would help my team
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We also didn't trade Archer back and forth three or four times in one season. It's interesting the way you two keep defending each individual trade like they are made in a vacuum and owners won't notice or won't care.
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BTW Beltre, was it collusion last year when I gave you Archer for mark Appel and Rosny Castillo
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I don't know how anybody who knows anything about fantasy baseball can look at this harvey trade and accuse me of shipping talent to another team I got at least equal value back I have improved my team greatly this offseason
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Seriously, name one fucking lopsided trade! You all sound like a bunch of sore losers! Have more respect for yourselves. 2016 is another season, you all have just as much of a chance as I do.
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 10:42 PM
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I trade a lot how many offers have I sent all of you guys I traded Kyle Swarber to riders on the storm last year and I've been trying to reacquire him. If he accepts one of those trades does that mean we are colluding. I traded Matt Duffy and another pitcher to the Commish last year for Mat Latos does that mean we wete colluding
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It's not just one trade. The Harvey back and forth is super shady, and the accumulation of shady trades is what convinces me you two are colluding and have been all year.
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It's not just one trade. The Harvey back and forth is super shady, and the accumulation of shady trades is what convinces me you two are colluding and have been all year.
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I just put this trade through a trade analyzer I win by a mile
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Still sounds like nothing but jealousy until you give ONE example of a lopsided trade.
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 10:28 PM
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That is absolutely ridiculous I got your Yoenis Cespedes at $24. 35 home runs over a hundred rbi, over 100 runs, +batting average for a guy who pitched way too many innings coming off of Tommy John surgery and oh by the way Tanaka as a throw in
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I too think that it is obvious collusion and this is just another example. Based on all the trades it's extremely obvious, especially trading Harvey back after he season ended. I am about to walk into a movie so I won't b able to respond to the barrage of attacks blumpkins is about to lob my way, but I will respond tomorrow. Have a good night.
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I have not heard or seen one word from anyone else. I'm not even sure why you think any of these deals are lopsided. I'm sure the commish loves you dragging him into this, if he wanted to say something I'm sure he would. Please name one trade that I have made that points to anything other than good luck or shrewd negotiating. Otherwise, go back under your bridge. Or better yet, find a fantasy baseball format that you can actually handle.
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 9:22 PM
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Ha! You grow up, dude. I've been talking to the commish and another manager since last year about your collusion. You're absolutely right that it's pathetic and yet you do it anyway and ruin it all for the rest of us. There isn't one person I've talked to who thinks you're not cheating and the Harvey deal is just embarrassing since I called it three months ago. Leave the league, dude. Many of us, including the commish, think you suck.
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That I'm trying to cheat at a 50$ fantasy baseball league. Grow up, buddy.
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 9:08 PM
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Commish needs to get this guy out of here. Openly threatening collusion because he thinks(not giving any evidence, or doing anything other than whining).
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 9:07 PM
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You're an idiot. Why don't you just quit? You're the only one complaining. Go back to yahoo where you belong.
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 9:00 PM
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What don't you understand? You're a fucking cheater and you're terrible at doing it bc you're so obvious. Either you leave or I fuck you and everyone else by trading my best players to one team.
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Please explain how any trade I've made is unfair. Otherwise stop bitching bc you can't put a good team together.
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 8:58 PM
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Come at me loser. Looking forward to kicking your ass again next season
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 8:55 PM
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Can we kick these guys out now? They've ruined this league. If we don't or can't I will do my best to fuck them.
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Interested in moving Cespedes, Pence or Ortiz for a fairly priced 1/2 SP
Look Out Bello on
November 27, 2015 5:10 PM
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Tecmo Champs's trade block has been updated!
5, 6, 7, 8's on
November 25, 2015 10:47 PM
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