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Got it
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Also agree on payment thing. Other than that I feel anything that requires a commish roster move should be limited as much as possible. The one veto reversal makes sense, anything aside from that is unnecessary
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I’m happy with whatever league wants. Agree on making teams pay when they join
Cosby Sweaters on
November 20, 2021 1:32 PM
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I just paid up but would like my Lewis/Groshans cuts back if others are in agreement. If Cos still thinks it's an over pay I'll send Lewis back and it'll be Varsho for Groshans.
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Where trading gets to be a very slippery slope is when they are made during what I call the "witching hour" (From the end of arbitration to the deadline for team payment). I have been involved in leagues VERY questionable trades were made and one of the questionable teams doesn't renew. To prevent this I think all new teams from this day forward be required to pay prior to making any cuts or trades. Other leagues do this and it seems to work just fine. Any thoughts?
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Now, I think you all understand why I wouldn't fill those teams at the end of last year. Can you imagine how big a problem this would have been then? I don't think that there was any collusion involved here. But on the other hand...it's so easy to say yes to a friend on a trade that you would never accept from someone else. This is not meant to point any fingers at any particular team. It seems to me that the consensus is to reverse that trade and everyone stays and we can all move on.
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Holy shit, I get a little busy and don’t check what is going on in the league and all hell breaks loose.
Sweetjayy21 on
November 19, 2021 4:40 PM
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Ok so everyone is still here. If there are no objections I will reverse the trade tomorrow. NOTE: It would help in the future for everyone to vote on any trades.
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I’m open to offers on them. So, send them my way when the time comes!
Sho Time on
November 19, 2021 12:18 PM
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I'll STFU now
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I will say that if Sho and I made that trade there would be griping and the like, but no (or few) veto's. I think a large part of the issue was the lack of shopping or offering those players for better deals before quickly settling up with Cosby. Poor optics and, in all fairness, Sit was lopsided and I fully expect the eventual trades of those players to reflect that.
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And apparently the bar is set high now on Jazz, Gray and Machado. So send me some great, cheap keepers everyone! :)
Sho Time on
November 19, 2021 11:02 AM
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I say reverse the trade so Cosby can use the original players he traded me to make other deals. It’s not really fair for me to get players and then him having to cut who he got. Just reset it. And I’ll stay too
Sho Time on
November 19, 2021 11:01 AM
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I'd rather reverse the trade than Cosby act like he's a victim suffering some handicap entering the season after those cuts lol
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I’m happy either way. Just glad we’re not losing any teams :)
Cosby Sweaters on
November 19, 2021 10:13 AM
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Sooo, now that all the dust has settled... Does anyone want their team dropped? Do we want to go back in time and reverse the trade or leave the players as they now stand?
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I'll STFU now
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Probably be a strike anyway.
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I did and I can't leave JRod now that he's ready. At least if you sit out until auction I don't have to get so many shitty offers for him with commentary about how I must really value him on my shitty counters. JRod will hopefully lead me to finish above you. I do recall quite clearly that you did tell me you would quit the league if I ever finished ahead of you so I got to see that through. Good luck everyone and be safe.
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You should’ve gone to yoga three days ago!
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 10:30 PM
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Probably be a strike anyway.
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WTF. I go to yoga for an hour and Cos loses his mind. Dude. You didn't have to cut those guys.
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CAPS LOCK ON GONNA STILL END UP TOP OF THE TABLE THIS YEAR. best of luck to everyone, see you at the auction
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 9:24 PM
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MODEL IS BACK ON LOCK AFTER ALL THESE 18 MONTHS OF CONFUSION. GLGLGLGLGLG U WILL NEED IT
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Tigres has entered the annual race to acquire all Tigers. Welcome to the hot stove! Erm, sorry, WELCOME TO THE HOTSTOVE
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TIGERS WERE HUNGRY NOW THE TIGERS ARE HUNGRY AND ANGRY. THAT WAS BUSH LEAGUE SHIT. THE SHOW GOES ON. PREPARE UR FANTASY BASEBALL ROSTER BECAUSE THESE TIGERS ARE GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP OF THIS STANDINGS TABLE. ADDICT
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That. In my opinion Logan Webb turned out to be a good contributor last year, and hopefully moving forward as well. Cosby got cap space he needed. Both turned out happy in a deal people didn't like. Once again, this is just my opinion. I am one of twelve. This is a good league with very good participants. Hope it stays this way
Duzy Donkees on
November 18, 2021 4:23 PM
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My two cents... In my opinion I think the trade should be allowed to go through. I will say that I would not have made a trade with my friend that I just invited into the league. The optics aren't that good. Then add in the perception that the trade may be lopsided and here we are. That being said, not all trades turn out as they appear at the time of the deal. Flash back to last season and there was a bit of a stir when Cosby and I traded Logan Webb for cash. Some were not happy with
Duzy Donkees on
November 18, 2021 4:19 PM
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I already said I'm good leaving so let's just leave it at that. I really want no part of it anymore. Can't compete when a team that needs to make up 60 fucking points gives up that much talent. Not worth it. Too difficult a hill to climb and I've spent too many years building up some talent to try and compete. I already asked Swallows to let me go so you all can move on once he does that.
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If Kyle leaves the league I think the trade should be reversed. If it's not I plan to drop the players, I'm not going to allow any doubts over the legitimacy of the deal.
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 3:05 PM
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I think it sets a bad precedent to overturn a trade that wasn’t vetoed unless there’s actual evidence of collusion or other misdeeds that are unknown to the league at the time of voting (which I haven’t seen, despite the very dramatic reaction).
MC Betamax on
November 18, 2021 2:59 PM
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Trade should've stood tbh, wasn't enough to veto. Would've been nice to have 9+ votes. Also, I didn't send a single offer for any player in that deal, no salt. Cosby, if you go back and read the words I wrote it's not a game/plot against you, you tried to quiet WTF's questioning dissent as obvious foolishness and I disagreed. To act like the other vetoing managers can't make up their own mind on the matter is a hot take. If anything I was eager to beat you with your sus trades <3
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Namaste
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Didn’t see you complain when you got judge for Sixto from me. Anyway, best of luck
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 1:37 PM
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I've had enough. Can't compete against deals like that one. Your comment about Maeda alone shows what a joke the trade is. You got 3 starting position players for 12% of Cap and gave up some decent pitching that could break down as pitchers are wont to do. Ah, but you did give up an OF who misses 20% of next season right off the bat and is out for a full season with another missed pee test. It's brilliant dude. Can't compete against that.
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No one wants to trade with me anyway lol
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 1:32 PM
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I sincerely doubt you are sitting out the rest of the offseason without making any offers but who gives a fuck I'm good leaving.
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I’m just saying everyone values players differently. No one said anything when I traded a cheap Soto for Clevinger and fried, even though that was a huge miss on my part. If I didn’t win the league last year I don’t think anyone would be complaining. Anyway, it’s a moot point. You and Il gotten win. Ill find a 3b in the auction and let you guys move in with your lives.
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 1:24 PM
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See WTF do I know. I'd love to have Manny at $34 with 10+ Steals and 20/30+ HR's. Guess you should cut him then.
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Average salary means nothing prior to the cut deadline. Kenta Maeda has an average salary of $14… I’m going off of a projected $ value of $27 for Machado. Regardless, I’m happy to undo the deal and move on with my off-season. Would be disappointed to lose you as an active owner but if that’s the case, best of luck going forward.
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 1:08 PM
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But WTF do I know
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Undo them all if you undo one. Not upset I didn't get the player I wanted. Upset that a team that needs to make up 50+ points on the leader hands him the 3 best players in the deal at very reasonable salaries. Sorry Cos but your bullshit overpriced comment on Machado is a joke as well. Seems to me if his Avg salary is $40 then getting him for less than that is a good deal.
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I’m fine to undo, I’ll go into next season with the team I have now.
Cosby Sweaters on
November 18, 2021 12:56 PM
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Commish. Go ahead and undo the trade and drop me from the league. I don’t want to deal with this shit every time I make a deal with Cosby. Just because a few teams were upset they didn’t get a player they want, they’re gonna throw a fit. Not worth it.
Sho Time on
November 18, 2021 12:53 PM
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1-5 lmao, I'd be embarrassed. Kudos on the deal I guess and be fortunate for those abstains. Way to immediately muddy otherwise clean competitive waters
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I'm out, good luck everyone. Take care and be safe.
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Didn't say it was collusion dude just that it's a fucking joke. 3 best players go to the Champ. Ridiculous. Hold out for more as you were in my offers for Jazz.
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A ton of upside. I think it’s lazy to just accuse collusion just because you don’t agree with a trade.
Sho Time on
November 16, 2021 5:51 PM
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Just out of curiosity would it have been collusion if I traded Jazz for Patino, one for one? Go ahead and vote, but here is the logic:
I think Snell figured it out down the stretch and could be back to a top-20 SP.
Laureano and Reynolds are basically a break even in my eyes. Maybe Reynolds a little more valuable because of the suspension.
Meyer I think will be better than Josiah Gray in the major this year(Gray overrated, IMO).
Machado is not a superstar and Ashby has
Sho Time on
November 16, 2021 5:49 PM
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I do miss bo!
Cosby Sweaters on
November 16, 2021 3:38 PM
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