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Arbitration starts in a week. We need everyone to participate to make the league as competitive as possible. It only takes a few minutes to allocate the money, and the process lasts for a month so everyone should be able to find a time to complete it. Lack of participation can change the dynamic of the auction quite a bit. If you have any questions please consult the offseason rules, or you can ask me, Elitists (commissioner), or I'm sure any of the other owners would be willing to help.
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Congrats on the win Plum Smuggler.
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Plum Smuggler on
October 2, 2017 10:37 AM
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Congrats on the win Plum.
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Seems obvious the 2 involved in the trade didn't vote. Not sure much can be inferred from the 4 non votes. But you waged an excellent campaign.
Plum Smuggler on
September 2, 2017 4:47 PM
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Half the league vetoed the trade while only two approved it. Sadly four people did not vote.
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There is no payout in this league and everyone had to pay to be in it. Let the trade be and stop griping. None of us can predict the future. Just bc one of us thinks we wouldn't make a certain trade, doesn't mean we should worry that another person does want to make that trade esp if that person paid to be in the league with no rewards.
Swamp Angels on
September 1, 2017 9:00 PM
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Quantum of Solace's trade block has been updated!
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So I think the issue is that generally a trade is better for one side this year, and the other side the next. In this case, everyone who is upset seems to believe that the Turner side is better for this year and next. I think everyone can at least agree that Turner is the best asset in the trade. Anyway, I think we should all just cast our vote and we'll see what happens
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And now you have commented. I didn't say anything about a veto. I just gave my opinion. We do all value players differently so I take no offense to your comment on the trade I made.
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Quantum...you just made a deal that I HATED for Upper West Side. Given salaries and position eligibility. I wouldn't trade Rizzo for Harper or Wood for Gordon in straight up deals. Hated it more because you benefit huge and we are in a battle. I didn't comment on the public board or privately....or even entertain the idea of veto. We all value players and team need differently. Thx again for your breakdown.
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 5:46 PM
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That is a weak return for those three. I would want all three if I was building for next year. Colome is a keeper for next year. Bichette is fine but he is two years away from the bigs and no help next year. The others are cuts imo. Turner, Smoak and McCullers all will have surplus.
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I agree with Panic. Dragging each other under the bus doesn't do us any good. Collusion is the only possible issue here. Personally I do not think that's what happened. If you do then Veto the trade. If the trade still goes through then ask the Commissioner to look into it. As far as I'm concerned if there's no collusion there's no issue. We are all free to manage our teams as we see fit within the rules.
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My personal view of the veto is to use it for collusion. Don't really see it here. Went through and looked at the previous trades they have made together. Turner and Manaea were swapped for Kluber last year. If you thought this trade was a little light maybe you should have inquired on Turner yourself and offered something more. Hit turner with the max arbitration $$ in the offseason. Anyway that is just my two cents on this issue. Maybe not be a great trade but no need to drag them all day.
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I try not to look at trades in a vacuum. Roster construction and your own personal valuations of players are a huge part of it. In saying that, ya this trade may not be "equal" but I can see both sides of it. I probably wouldn't make it but that doesn't mean you need to drag the people that are involved in. Slack is a good source of info but it is not the be all and end all. Most of the guys there will tell you they aren't 5x5 players anyway.
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A reminder again that this trade came about through discussion and negotiation of 2 willing and experienced fantasy players. In 4 Ottoneu leagues over 5 years, I have never seen or voted for a veto. VERY rare circumstances where they are appropriate....IMHO
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 12:52 PM
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I'll openly acknowledge I've got almost no chance at a 2017 title, it's between Quantum and Plum and has been for a couple weeks. I even responded to inquiries to my team earlier this week that I thought I was out of it and have declined to throw good money after bad at this point. This trade is about 2018 and beyond. It's just way too lopsided, please do not continue to try and justify it.
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It is comforting to all i am sure that Oxford's comments are coming from a completely unbiased position, looking out for the best of the league...not from some one in a near three way tie for the lead.
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 12:48 PM
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New comment from Slack "Out of all the bad trades, that one deserves a medal."
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I know that opinions vary (widely) on players, that is part of the fun of this game. I fall on the side that believes this trade is pretty lopsided, though, and vetoed it more because we are given that opportunity. Given that this isn't a prize league, I don't care too much about it beyond voting, though. I guess we'll find out what the others think about it when the trade processes.
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I put it up on Slack to get a wider range of opinions. A could quotes so far "That one is pretty terrible." "Super terrible" Both from main members of the community.
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I'd keep Bichette and Smith. Steals are getting expensive, and I've seen Bichette play a few times in person. He is impressive.
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Opinions vary, I get that. I just see this as giving up a $10+ Colome for 3 keepers one of which is a $16+ Trea Turner.
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Plum, you want Turner, I get it. You don't want anything to block this trade and possibly lose Turner, I get that as well. We've all been there on our one sided trades. As for 4 clear cuts, that's how I see it, happy to have a name by name discussion with everyone. 4 Me: Solarte at $9 even with SS is a cut, Colome at $10 for 2018 is a keep, $15 Sanchez is a cut, Mallex Smith at $5 is a cut, Bobafett at $6 and a couple years away from the majors is also a cut.
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Wow....tell us how you really feel!! Your claim of "4 clear cuts" might be the most ridiculous thing I have read on a message board, in my 5 years in Ottoneu. Happy to have a discussion...let's try to keep it civil.
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 11:12 AM
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It's not a this year vs future question, it's completely one sided towards Plum for 2018+. Anyway this is prob the most lopsided trade I have seen in my three years in Ottoneu.
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4 clear cuts and $8 Colome for $14 Turner, who is prob the most valuable asset in the league at is price, plus a top 40 player in Smoak for $5 and a good priced McCullers at $10. If it was only Turner would still be lopsided, If it was just the other two and no Turner it would still be better off for Plum, as it is it's a joke.
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That was more or less what I thought. It was a pretty clear buy/sell trade at the deadline.
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From my standpoint, Plum wanted Turner and I'm looking for chips for next season. Seems reasonable to me.
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Worked on the deal for a week...sent at least 5 different packages involving about 8 different players from my team...not sure of the issue.
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 8:44 AM
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Why would it be?
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That trade is a joke, right?
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Plum Smuggler on
August 15, 2017 10:31 AM
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I have some extra cap dollars that I would trade to someone interested in acquiring some more cap space for the stretch run. I also am still looking to move Miggy.
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