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I really, really wish the “trade blocks” emails included *the players on the trade block* - I know these things are never as easy as they seem to bystanders, and I appreciate how hard Niv works. But this change would make it much easier for me to keep up with trade chatter (and even messages).
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(apparently the message board doesn't like my use of tab-space)
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fwiw, I see no cause to veto this trade. My disappointment is from wanting to be involved in these talks and not receiving so much as a notice of availability. I could have and would have made a better offer. So... allow me to be very clear.
1. I want to be involved in any major MLB asset sale.
2. I'm in 17 leagues. I cannot and will not check trade blocks. It's not practical.
3. I will respond quickly to all messages via ottoneu DM or email.
That's all.
Brad
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Frankly I'm more concerned by the presumption of bad faith than I am the trade itself. This is a community and fun distraction from real baseball, and "real" baseball is in turn a community and fun distraction from the rest of the world, which is becoming a more stressful place (whoever you are).
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This is simply a present-value for near-future value trade. The trade is jarring in part because it's so big, probably the biggest in the league's history. I can vouch for ABC trying hard to move these assets (in my case, Bryant) before the draft. I don't see any vector by which this can be called collusion. If two teams were colluding, that would be grounds for expulsion from the league, not just vetoing a trade. But that's not the case here.
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I feel like we have to weigh in here. We too were in on talks on all three big pieces that moved. While their prices were a little high for us, we have zero problem with the return from RR. I think if you current and future value, you will find the trade shockingly fair (within $10 on my sheet). This trade absolutely should no be vetoed.
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I also want to be clear that I'm not advocating for anyone to do anything.
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Hey guys. So the last time there was a highly contentious trade in this league, Dave (our last commissioner) said he was tempted to cancel the trade, but decided to let it go to a vote. I'm inclined to simply do the same thing here. I remember that Dave also reminded us that there is no rule about how to use a veto. It doesn't have to be suspected collusion. Use at your own discretion.
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I’ve also updated my block constantly saying I’m getting more aggressive in talks with these guys.
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New York. You told me this morning you don’t think Trout alone is worth YELICH OR Eloy. So you have zero credibility here
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I can confirm, the quote I got for a maybe injured Clayton Kershaw was pretty large. Was never informed Trout et al were available even though I asked to be. I would have had Lindor, Acuna, and/or Vladito on the table along with a swarm of great $1 keeper prospects and other cheap MLBers. Pretty annoyed.
Not voting to veto or anything - the trade might even work out favorably - but this was bush league.
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And, for the record, I’m not surprised just because i “missed out,” since I was asked for Yelich, hicks, Eloy, and tucker for trout alone and told that was the minimum that would get trout
GP3 on
March 3, 2019 10:02 PM
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Like I said though, I approved because I think I don’t see collusion
GP3 on
March 3, 2019 9:54 PM
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And the fact that there was a lengthy defense in the trade acceptance makes me think we all know what’s up.
GP3 on
March 3, 2019 9:53 PM
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IMO that trade is a slam dunk for grays. I want to veto, but I don’t veto on grounds that I prefer one side or the other. I only veto for collusion, which I don’t think happened here.
GP3 on
March 3, 2019 9:52 PM
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That’s not a roller coaster is a linear path. Half the league is upset bc I made a trade after they lost out. I’m not into that. Plain and simple.
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You are an emotional roller coaster...one minute flaunting your greatness the next threatening to quit the league. I’m checking out bc this is frustrating as hell. Again its March 3rd and the season is a few weeks away. I never veto trades bc I only believe they should be vetoed when there is collusion but I’ll happily veto this one. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Didn’t know making a trade was chaos
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It’s March 3rd....why the rush. Unless you are the type thst joins leagues and creates chaos.
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The simple fact that someone called me out makes me defend my successes. And if you think it’s a lie it’s public info. And if everyone is unhappy with my deal I will leave the league and you can easily replace me and veto the deal.
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Dude the simple fact that you feel it necessary to flaunt your perceived success in ottoneu leads me to believe that maybe you don’t know what you’re doing.
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I won’t ever throw anyone under the bus but the offers were very bad and no one changed their tune after I came back each time I knew I was getting closer everyone had ample opportunity
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I dominated a new start up league last year and in my third year in 244 I finished 6 overall in FGPT and easily won. I have an idea of what I’m doing or Ben wouldn’t have accepted me in the league
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Sure. But I shopped for three weeks and unfortunately the offers were very bad. Regardless of it was for one, two or all three. Everyone was on notice since draft day. And I’m a huge fan of my return so it’s a moot point
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Hey Reading I don’t think the league is being stingy with your trade offers. It’s March 3rd and the season is weeks away. You would have done much better to let the season play out and sell each asset individually to the contending teams to maximize your return. I don’t know if you are just incredibly impatient or if you are new to ottoneu but in my opinion that was a less than optimal return for the extreme talent that you gave.
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Hey, can you maybe shop offers around before you trade 3 top 25 assets in one deal?
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Saratoga Grays's trade block has been updated!
Brass NHPs on
March 3, 2019 8:41 PM
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Reading Rocks's trade block has been updated!
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Saratoga Grays's trade block has been updated!
Brass NHPs on
March 1, 2019 12:39 PM
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Reading Rocks's trade block has been updated!
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Tim Lincecum's Mustache's trade block has been updated!
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Reading Rocks's trade block has been updated!
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Tim Lincecum's Mustache's trade block has been updated!
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Mos Eisley Rodian Raiders's trade block has been updated!
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Haliax Chandrian Explosion's trade block has been updated!
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We have a surplus of premium prospects (not Vladito). Need C and RP. Or general upgrades.
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Reading Rocks's trade block has been updated!
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Saratoga Grays's trade block has been updated!
Brass NHPs on
February 19, 2019 11:05 PM
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Volleyball canceled due to impending weather. Am here and ready. Happy to wait for others as needed.
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Will do, thanks.
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I am on my way home, I should get there right around 9 ET. Please hold until I'm in the room, if that's okay, won't be more than a couple minutes.
Brass NHPs on
February 19, 2019 8:39 PM
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I am present.
Oxford United on
February 19, 2019 7:32 PM
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I have a volleyball game at 6:15 (central time). It should be done by 7:05, it's about a 40-minute drive, so I should walk in my door about 15 mins ahead of the draft. I trust I'll be on time, but if I am running even a few minutes behind, I'll let everyone know.
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Hey everyone, just a friendly reminder that our draft will begin in a little less than 30 hours! Please try to arrive in the draft room at least 5-10 minutes before 9 PM EST tomorrow (Feb. 19) to ensure that we get started on time. If you think you might be running late, please let me know ahead of time. Looking forward to it!
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Potomac Privateers ⚔️'s trade block has been updated!
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The cancer charity I've chosen is the Colorectal Cancer Alliance (www.ccalliance.org).
-- Daryl
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Thanks for welcoming me to the Screw Cancer league. I'm looking forward to playing in this league that I've heard so much about.
This will be my sixth season playing Ottoneu, and Screw Cancer will be my fourth league. I have yet to win a championship, so my greatest accomplishment thus far is placing second four years in a row in league 464. (Two of those four years I finished behind David Gagnon, who I'm looking forward to having on my side with this team!)
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Haliax Chandrian Explosion's trade block has been updated!
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Daryl Daryl is a cool name. Sort of like Andy Andy from Cheers 😬
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Welcome Daryl!
Brass NHPs on
February 2, 2019 4:11 PM
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