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Not that it matters now but is Ottoneu really making every pay the $100 for this 60 game season? I mean I know we all paid like months ago but this is the only league I know that is doing that. Oh well. Also I will be out of contention within a week or two since I've got no money and half my guys are on IL and opting out so in about 10 days send me trade offer for prospects I'll win this thing in 2025. :)
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Yeah, if you click the headline To the community site at the top of the page, Niv outlined all of the changes including the new prorated games and innings limits.
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Either way let's just roll with it and I'll just get trained OTJ
Nappy Dugout on
July 20, 2020 1:40 PM
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Alright I suppose if I'm the last of the mohicans.... I guess the daily feature will just increase one's likelihood of running up against the maximums. Esp if we assume that ottoneu lowered the min/max innings played and pitched to a prorated amount based on the short season which they presumably calculated and contemplated would be close to met when season is done. Or do they have different mins/maxs for different leagues?
Nappy Dugout on
July 20, 2020 1:39 PM
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I support daily for 2020 given the exceptional circumstances and what feels like daily moving parts in MLB. I think this is the flexibility we need and I may be wrong, but can't we set a lineup and it stands and if we choose to adjust daily, we can, otherwise it remains as is for as long as we want. I know some can't accommodate daily as much as others, but I vote for it. I am totally fine with weekly too - I don't see this as absolutes. Just trying to adjust to a unique season
Dying Quails on
July 20, 2020 8:59 AM
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Haus and Nap I know this switches things up for you, but there's a solution. There is a lever you can flip on the lineup page: "Bench position players that are not in their MLB starting lineup. Based on our projections 5 minutes before scheduled game time". If you preset your lineups a couple days ahead of time, like in bunches of 3 based on SP faced, and combine with this lever you should field pretty solid lineups on a daily basis.
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I was the other person in favor of maintaining weekly lineups since that is what we signed up for. It seems quite clear I am in the minority here. I agree daily is better for all of the reasons stated, but, again, this has been advertised as a weekly league. The only reason I am in it is because it is impossible for me to set a valid lineup every day since I am in a non-US time zone. Not worth fighting about, go ahead and change it to daily if it will enhance the experience that much.
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Nap, I’ll just add in here that the benefit of daily has more to do with maximizing games played at your hitter spots. It’s next to impossible to max those out in weekly due to IL stints and days off, where in daily you can sub in a player from your bench right away. Same goes for the pitching, as Mentioned there is an IP limit, so you can’t stream pitchers from waivers every day. You would also run out of budget pretty quickly that way. Dynasty also mitigates the daily streaming strategy.
🍟 FryGuys 🍟 on
July 20, 2020 2:11 AM
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Anyway, back to my earlier question. Is every other owner on board? I swore we had someone else who expressed a concern?
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 11:25 PM
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I thought I understood the rules when I signed up last season. Now I'm not so sure.
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 11:22 PM
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Nap, there'something amiss here. If you have 10 SP you have PLENTY of pitching for the year. You don't have to have a start per day, you have an innings MAXIMUM for the YEAR. Do you understand the rules? I say that not to be condescending but because I think there's a legitimate disconnect between your logic and the rules. For the year you can ONLY pitch a MAXIMUM of 560 IP and a MINIMUM of 460 IP.
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And yes, it is quite possible I'm overthinking this. But, based on last season's experience, there's several days in a week when I had no SP going. If one would like to make a realistic run at winning this season, it would, presumably, require some serious dump and pump. Thereby fucking up everything we drafted for in the first place for the long haul. Maybe I'm the only one seeing that and concerned with it idk
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 11:14 PM
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Not talking covid. I'm talking more SP. If we can start P daily, then if I'm holding the 10 SP I drafted, all of whom I would like to keep for the entire season, then I'm going to have to let some of them go back into the waiver pool in order to staff my team with enough SP to cover a starter every day of the season. I understand that the winner doesn't necessarily HAVE to make a lot of moves to win, but the one who does would be at significant advantage over the owners who don't start a P daily
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 11:11 PM
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I think you're over thinking this, Nap. The biggest difference between daily v. weekly lineup changes would be platooning. In weekly you essentially can't platoon where in daily you can. But in weekly as in daily you have to weigh whether adding marginal major leaguers for point depth at the expense of your future plan is worth it or not. I don't understand how drafting for one option or the other could make that drastic a difference in short or long term goals. Maybe 5 players total?
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The winner of a daily season doesn't HAVE to make a lot of moves to win a season, but the advantage of a daily season, especially a shortened one with a new injury designation, is that *if you have to make moves* it's easier to do so now. And not all those moves will require you to drop players you currently roster as long as you have cap space. Really the experience shouldn't be much different than weekly with the exception of getting to play with your lineups more frequently.
AKA Big Papi on
July 19, 2020 10:32 PM
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And maybe I'm totally missing this and just need to see it and experience it in action...am I the lone skeptic? Wasn't there someone else who said they had some issues? Just curious. I'm not necessarily out, just trying to wrap my head around it and analyze how it will actually play out. I keep going back to just how comfortable I felt my team was/is after drafting. Yeah, I'll make some moves here and there, but I'm guessing the winner of a daily season is going to make a SHIT TON of moves
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 10:29 PM
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You shouldn't have to dismantle your roster because once a player hits the DL with a COVID designation it will act the same as the 60 Day DL - that players salary still counts against your cap but you can add another player into that roster spot.
AKA Big Papi on
July 19, 2020 10:26 PM
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So the reasoning behind moving to daily is because with so many players potentially hitting the IL for COVID tests, it will really skew the results on a weekly basis. However, in a daily league, if you lose a player on Monday to COVID 10 Day DL, then you can replace that person with a 24 auction and continue to accrue points once that player hits your roster, as opposed to waiting until the next upcoming weekly cycle to replace the player.
AKA Big Papi on
July 19, 2020 10:24 PM
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I guess it would make sense if we are going to be a daily league forever. Then, I can see and understand not necessarily wanting to hold on to someone as long as normal because if it's daily starts then more owners will be inclined to drop more rostered players in order to get the next day's starter in a game. So, if that is the strategy moving forward, ok I suppose I can climb aboard knowing that now. But, if we are going to go to daily just for this season, then return to weekly... idk?
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 10:24 PM
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And then what happens next season? We go back to weekly? Or is this going to be daily indefinitely?
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 10:20 PM
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So if the logistics are exactly the same, then why again the need to change? I love true daily if we can get someone on the waiver wire tonight for a start tomorrow. And if we start out and draft knowing there will be high daily turnover. My concern is that one would need to essentially dismantle their team in order to have any realistic chance of winning this season. And that would be in direct contradiction to the strategy and method in which that owner drafted back in March.
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 10:19 PM
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And you second scenario of weighing of dynasty value v. current value is something we all have to deal with in daily or weekly. Do I sacrifice long term potential gains for short term ones? The short term hurdles are handled on a slightly different time line, but the issues for each scenario are essentially the same.
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Hey Nappy. Not sure your confusion. Your first scenario is the same with daily or weekly. If you want a guy who's going to start 3 days from now, you'd better start his auction today. If he's starting tomorrow, then you're SOL. Same if you wanted to buy a guy who had 2 starts in one week. You'd have to start his auction 2-3 days before that week started or you'd miss out on his starts.
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And then if I have to drop a player whom I presumably drafted strategically for long-term dynasty purposes in order to free a spot for my newly-acquired "rental" pitcher who starts tomorrow and whose points I just wish to have for tomorrow's game, does that not defeat the purpose of having drafted the original pitcher/player in the first place?
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 9:19 PM
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No major issue necessarily, but I'm still a bit confused. And perhaps this was explained before but I seem to have missed it; if it was please forgive me. But, how will this work logistically speaking? If I want to start a pitcher(s) or a field player for tomorrow's games who is not currently on my team tonight, but the auction bidding process is still several days, how will that be completed in order to plug that pitcher/player into starting roster in order to receive credit for his points?
Nappy Dugout on
July 19, 2020 9:16 PM
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Feel free to DM me if you have a major issue with the switch.
AKA Big Papi on
July 19, 2020 7:11 PM
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Sorry for the delay here - given the poll results I think it's easier to switch to daily for this shortened season and then in the off-season re-visit whether or not we want to keep the league as a daily league. I definitely was looking forward to a weekly format, but it really just doesn't make sense with a shortened season.
AKA Big Papi on
July 19, 2020 7:10 PM
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🤷♂️. 7/12 participated in the poll. The vote was 6-1 for daily. I'm waiting to hear from the commish
North Stars on
July 14, 2020 11:20 AM
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There's been no announcement on the lineup vote, daily v. weekly. Are we to assume that means nothing is changing?
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That's a good point, Kenny. For those who don't know this "switch" is an option: "Bench position players that are not in their MLB starting lineup. Based on our projections 5 minutes before scheduled game time" This ensures you won't have players in your lineup that aren't starting. I'm not positive if it then inserts other players into your lineup that are starting, but this is a helpful tool in running a team if you don't have the time.
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I posted a poll. Let's vote at least and wee where we are. With the new "auto eject" feature, it will make daily easier for daily so you don't lose starts (if the player is not in his team's starting lineup, he will be benched here).
North Stars on
June 29, 2020 10:53 AM
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https://doodle.com/poll/226nrazgvgr6w4yv
North Stars on
June 29, 2020 10:50 AM
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I vote daily - I know I have the time now !
Dying Quails on
June 28, 2020 9:48 PM
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My vote would be for a daily league since we have a shortened season.
AKA Big Papi on
June 28, 2020 5:21 PM
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@Oscar, what you thinking
North Stars on
June 28, 2020 4:26 PM
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This is the second year. Lol
North Stars on
June 28, 2020 4:25 PM
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It's my first year in the league and the folks who created the league made it set it an forget for a reason, so I think they should have more say. If the veteran members don't want to have a fully engaged league for whatever reason, even with only an 8 week season, then I'll stand by that. But if there is a vote, my vote is for daily.
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If there are strong feelings against daily lineup changes, I'm fine either way. My intention was to bring this up as a change for this year only, as we have an unexpectedly shortened season, so I thought maybe everyone would want to be more engaged with their teams given how quick this season will go. I do agree that we have already drafted and agreed to this year's set of rules, therefore, I think this would need to be a unanimous decision in order to change a rule.
🍟 FryGuys 🍟 on
June 28, 2020 4:06 PM
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I understand that we voted for weekly lineups already, but life and MLB had changed significantly since then. If we had known then what we know now I imagine that we may have voted differently. I think it's crazy to not entertain and discuss the daily option at the very least. MLB and Ottoneu have both adjusted accordingly to the current environment so I think we should discuss it as well. In the end I'll go with whatever we decide, but I think everyone should keep an open mind.
Fly the W on
June 28, 2020 2:14 PM
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It's all good, doesn't hurt to ask. I haven't played in a set-it-and-forget-it league in a while. Could be interesting.
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We have to stay at weekly now guys unless the commish overrules me. It was agreed to weekly when everyone paid.
North Stars on
June 28, 2020 11:45 AM
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I prefer daily given the circumstances - but good either way.
Dying Quails on
June 28, 2020 7:48 AM
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As already mentioned, there were a few people who are only in this league because it is weekly lineups. Changing it after the topic has already been discussed and voted on, and we have already drafted, is ridiculous. Feel free to change it next year so those of us who want a weekly lineup league can look elsewhere.
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Since the season changed, it might make sense
North Stars on
June 27, 2020 11:13 PM
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We had this vote already. We can do it again. Next week I'll post a doodle poll
North Stars on
June 27, 2020 11:12 PM
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I'm guessing the silence by the commissioners doesn't bode well for daily lineup changes?
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There will only be 3 days during the 9 week of baseball with no games for each team. 3!
North Stars on
June 26, 2020 10:09 PM
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We have totally new circumstances
North Stars on
June 26, 2020 10:08 PM
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Do a doodle
North Stars on
June 26, 2020 10:08 PM
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I never knew it was weekly, until now. My fault for not looking, but depressing.
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